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|
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| 689 | <p class=Metadata><span lang=EN-NZ>Transcriber</span></p>
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| 691 | <td width=352 valign=top style='width:264.25pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
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| 692 | <p class=Metadata><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'>Merryn
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| 693 | McAulay<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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| 701 | <p class=Metadata><span lang=EN-NZ>22</span></p>
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| 706 | <p class=Metadata><span lang=EN-NZ>Complete</span></p>
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| 709 | <p class=Metadata><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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| 713 | <td width=168 valign=top style='width:125.9pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
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| 714 | <p class=Metadata><span lang=EN-NZ>Profile</span></p>
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| 715 | </td>
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| 716 | <td width=352 valign=top style='width:264.25pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
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| 717 | <p class=Metadata><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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| 722 | <p class=Metadata><span lang=EN-NZ>Abstract</span></p>
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| 725 | <p class=Metadata><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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| 726 | </td>
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| 727 | </tr>
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| 731 | <p class=Metadata><span lang=EN-NZ>Comments</span></p>
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| 736 | <p class=Metadata><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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| 737 | </td>
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|
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| 739 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:10'>
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| 748 | </tr>
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| 749 | </table>
|
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| 750 |
|
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| 751 | <p class=Metadata><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
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| 752 |
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|---|
| 753 | <span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Arial Mäori";
|
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| 754 | mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
|
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|
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| 756 | clear=all style='mso-special-character:line-break;page-break-before:always'>
|
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| 757 | </span>
|
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| 758 |
|
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| 759 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
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| 760 |
|
|---|
| 761 | <h1 style='margin-left:31.5pt'><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:20.0pt;
|
|---|
| 762 | line-height:150%'>Mirth Ngapo<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
|
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| 763 |
|
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| 764 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 765 |
|
|---|
| 766 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
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| 767 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 768 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
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|
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| 770 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 771 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>T1:00:00:00</span></p>
|
|---|
| 772 | </td>
|
|---|
| 773 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 774 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Today, which I think 23rd July 2001, were
|
|---|
| 775 | collecting information which wed like to leave as a record for our mokos and
|
|---|
| 776 | grand mokos yet to come who might want to investigate what life in Hauraki was
|
|---|
| 777 | in your time and probably in my time. By the goodness of a lot of people Ive
|
|---|
| 778 | been privileged to talk to them about what it was like when they grew up. Im
|
|---|
| 779 | grateful for the opportunity to talk here with you and listen to some of the
|
|---|
| 780 | wonderful stories</span></p>
|
|---|
| 781 | </td>
|
|---|
| 782 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 783 | </table>
|
|---|
| 784 |
|
|---|
| 785 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 786 |
|
|---|
| 787 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Identity</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 788 |
|
|---|
| 789 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
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|
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|
|---|
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|
|---|
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|
|---|
| 794 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:01:00</span></p>
|
|---|
| 795 | </td>
|
|---|
| 796 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 797 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>J: Can you tell me your full name and your
|
|---|
| 798 | date of birth and any stories that might be associated with firstly where you
|
|---|
| 799 | were born the people in your family. </span></p>
|
|---|
| 800 | </td>
|
|---|
| 801 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 802 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 803 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 804 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:01:16</span></p>
|
|---|
| 805 | </td>
|
|---|
| 806 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 807 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>My name is Ilton Mirth Ngapo.<span
|
|---|
| 808 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Mirth is a made up name: the <b
|
|---|
| 809 | style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>M</b> is for Mary which is a family name;
|
|---|
| 810 | the <b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>I</b> is for Ilton, my Auntys<span
|
|---|
| 811 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>name, the <b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
|
|---|
| 812 | normal'>R </b>is for Ruth and the <b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>T</b>
|
|---|
| 813 | is for Thwaites my dads name and the <b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>H</b>
|
|---|
| 814 | is for Holvelle which is my mothers maiden name so they comprise <b
|
|---|
| 815 | style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>MIRTH</b>. I was born on the 9th October
|
|---|
| 816 | 1923 and Im now seventy seven years of age, I was born at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
|
|---|
| 817 | w:st="on">Kennedy</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Bay</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
|
|---|
| 818 | in the homestead. I was delivered by my Uncle Reg Bell who was a dentist
|
|---|
| 819 | married to Sarah Bell.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>All the births
|
|---|
| 820 | were home births. I am the 11th in a family of twelve.<span
|
|---|
| 821 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span></span></p>
|
|---|
| 822 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 823 | </td>
|
|---|
| 824 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 825 | </table>
|
|---|
| 826 |
|
|---|
| 827 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 828 |
|
|---|
| 829 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Education</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 830 |
|
|---|
| 831 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 832 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 833 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
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|
|---|
| 835 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 836 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:02:38</span></p>
|
|---|
| 837 | </td>
|
|---|
| 838 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 839 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>My dad owned a farm in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
|
|---|
| 840 | w:st="on">Kennedy</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Bay</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>.<span
|
|---|
| 841 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>We were all brought up on the farm and went
|
|---|
| 842 | to school in the Bay. My father believed in education and he said the
|
|---|
| 843 | European way of life so he although he and mum spoke English They didnt
|
|---|
| 844 | teach us Maori.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>We all started school
|
|---|
| 845 | when we were five years old we had to stay at home till we were five and um
|
|---|
| 846 | it was a it wasnt a Maori school then it was a ah, it was run by the
|
|---|
| 847 | Education Department its only lately it has turned into a Maori school and I
|
|---|
| 848 | think it is a um kura kaupapa school now in Kennedy Bay um because at that
|
|---|
| 849 | time my sisters went to school in Coromandel I think it only went to about
|
|---|
| 850 | the um third forth form and it was called School of Mines and is now turned
|
|---|
| 851 | into a um a museum um so that when we went to school because we had a sister
|
|---|
| 852 | in that lived up in Otahuhu we went up and stayed with her and that was from
|
|---|
| 853 | my brother George, my brother Dick wouldnt go to school he wanted to stay
|
|---|
| 854 | home on the farm and become a farmer and my sister Kathleen, myself and my
|
|---|
| 855 | brother Gordon we all went to the Otahu Technical High School it was then,
|
|---|
| 856 | its now changed to Otahu College. Dad was determined that we were going to
|
|---|
| 857 | have an education so he, umm before he died he had it in his will that we
|
|---|
| 858 | were to be educated, sent away to school to be educated I had four brothers
|
|---|
| 859 | and seven sisters of all the seven sisters there was seven they all nursed
|
|---|
| 860 | did their nurses training, my sister Doreen ahh became um a sister she was a
|
|---|
| 861 | sister at St Helens at one time and she and St Marys um nursing home in Otahu
|
|---|
| 862 | she was a sister and matron there so when I went to school my mother decided
|
|---|
| 863 | that I wasnt going to be a nurse because I was too fainthearted anyway so ah
|
|---|
| 864 | she decided that I was to become um to do office work so I took a commercial
|
|---|
| 865 | course at Otahu College, we had a um a very happy family life at home we had
|
|---|
| 866 | dad had made us a tennis court and we used to play tennis and used to play
|
|---|
| 867 | football with the boys when the, especially at school because there werent
|
|---|
| 868 | enough boys to play so the girls had to play as well and then um but no, our
|
|---|
| 869 | time at Kennedy Bay was very happy.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 870 | <p class=MsoNormal><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
|
|---|
| 871 | </td>
|
|---|
| 872 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 873 | </table>
|
|---|
| 874 |
|
|---|
| 875 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 876 |
|
|---|
| 877 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>School</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 878 |
|
|---|
| 879 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 880 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 881 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
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|
|---|
| 883 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 884 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:06:02</span></p>
|
|---|
| 885 | </td>
|
|---|
| 886 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 887 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>J: What about coming home, how did you get
|
|---|
| 888 | across to, howd you get from <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Auckland</st1:place></st1:City>?</span><span
|
|---|
| 889 | class=Heading2Char><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
|
|---|
| 890 | font-style:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
|
|---|
| 891 | </td>
|
|---|
| 892 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 893 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 894 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 895 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:06:40</span></p>
|
|---|
| 896 | </td>
|
|---|
| 897 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 898 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Oh during school holidays we always came,
|
|---|
| 899 | went back to Kennedy Bay and wed go down in the bus to the Auckland wharf
|
|---|
| 900 | just in the, just where the ferry, by the ferry buildings there um and then
|
|---|
| 901 | wed get on Wee Pat, um Mr Strongmans boat and wed come down the Hauraki
|
|---|
| 902 | gulf and pull in at the Coromandel wharf, from there someone usually arrived
|
|---|
| 903 | on horseback and we used to um put our um suitcases, we had what they call a
|
|---|
| 904 | split sack you know and wed have this big sack and it was split in the
|
|---|
| 905 | middle and sewed up both ends and then wed put our suitcases inside the bags
|
|---|
| 906 | and put them on the back of the horses and ride home to Kennedy Bay, used to
|
|---|
| 907 | take about an hour and a half to two hours to get home, when they put the,
|
|---|
| 908 | during the war years when everyone was um actually it was during the
|
|---|
| 909 | depression they laid, they deviated the road and put in a new road, made it
|
|---|
| 910 | easier, easier access so that cars and trucks could come over to Kennedy Bay
|
|---|
| 911 | and then my brother had a, had the cream truck but before then the cart and
|
|---|
| 912 | horse used to come over from Coromandel and pick up the cream from all the
|
|---|
| 913 | farmers and take it back to the cream factory in Coromandel</span></p>
|
|---|
| 914 | </td>
|
|---|
| 915 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 916 | </table>
|
|---|
| 917 |
|
|---|
| 918 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 919 |
|
|---|
| 920 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Travelling to Coromandel</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 921 |
|
|---|
| 922 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 923 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 924 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 925 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 926 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 927 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 928 | </td>
|
|---|
| 929 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 930 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>That was quite an onus task to get ah the
|
|---|
| 931 | cart and horse plus the cream over the hill<span
|
|---|
| 932 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span></span></p>
|
|---|
| 933 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 934 | </td>
|
|---|
| 935 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 936 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 937 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 938 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:08:28</span><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
|
|---|
| 939 | normal'><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Mäori"'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
|
|---|
| 940 | </td>
|
|---|
| 941 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 942 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Thats right um old in on part of going
|
|---|
| 943 | up the Tokatea um the grade was very steep and the horses take two steps
|
|---|
| 944 | forward and the, the driver would have stones in his hand so that if the cart
|
|---|
| 945 | went backwards hed put a stone under the wheel so it wouldnt slip and the
|
|---|
| 946 | horse would keep on going and hed have these stones all ready to put behind
|
|---|
| 947 | the wheels, or a piece of timber so that the truck wouldnt, the ah cart
|
|---|
| 948 | wouldnt go backwards, yeah on the very steep grade so it was quite a um
|
|---|
| 949 | suppose it was quite a hard job for him but they used to come over sometimes
|
|---|
| 950 | at least three times a week and when hed come over with the empty cream cans
|
|---|
| 951 | hed bring the groceries you could ring up, everyone had a telephone, all on
|
|---|
| 952 | the party line and youd ring up to the grocery shop in Coromandel and order
|
|---|
| 953 | groceries out or else the children, after school I remember quite often my
|
|---|
| 954 | sister Kathleen and I used to um get our horses and ride to Coromandel mum
|
|---|
| 955 | would order the groceries on the phone and wed go over to Coromandel pick them
|
|---|
| 956 | up or if the horses had to be shod wed take them to the blacksmith and they
|
|---|
| 957 | would shoe the horses and then wed come back to Kennedy Bay often arriving
|
|---|
| 958 | home in the dark and ah mm.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 959 | </td>
|
|---|
| 960 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 961 | </table>
|
|---|
| 962 |
|
|---|
| 963 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 964 |
|
|---|
| 965 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Roles of the Children</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 966 |
|
|---|
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|
|---|
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|
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|
|---|
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|
|---|
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|
|---|
| 972 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:10:13</span></p>
|
|---|
| 973 | </td>
|
|---|
| 974 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 975 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Because there were twelve of you in the
|
|---|
| 976 | family and seven were girls eh? What were the different specific roles that
|
|---|
| 977 | you had to ah do, did you have chores that you did were their special chores
|
|---|
| 978 | because you were the favourite did you do anything?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 979 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 980 | </td>
|
|---|
| 981 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 982 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 983 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 984 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:10:34</span></p>
|
|---|
| 985 | </td>
|
|---|
| 986 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 987 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Well um, I was lucky or I thought I was
|
|---|
| 988 | lucky and so was Kathleen or Kyla my sister, I called her Kyla because I
|
|---|
| 989 | couldnt say her name properly so she, thats how she got her name it was a
|
|---|
| 990 | nickname Kyla and um when we had to give, tell the teacher what recipes we
|
|---|
| 991 | cooked at home, Gordon, Kyla and I we couldnt tell them anything because we
|
|---|
| 992 | didnt cook and all they said well we were allowed to um, get off because we
|
|---|
| 993 | had older brothers and sisters to do the cooking for us and by then anyhow
|
|---|
| 994 | mum used to it, mum was a great cook so we didnt have to do it probably
|
|---|
| 995 | spoilt but ah yeah.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 996 | <p class=Numbering style='margin-left:15.9pt'><span lang=EN-NZ
|
|---|
| 997 | style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 998 | </td>
|
|---|
| 999 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1000 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1001 |
|
|---|
| 1002 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1003 |
|
|---|
| 1004 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
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|
|---|
| 1006 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1007 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
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|
|---|
| 1009 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:11:27</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1010 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1011 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1012 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Were there any other chores that you had
|
|---|
| 1013 | to do associated with the farm?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1014 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1015 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1016 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1017 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1018 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:11:33</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1019 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1020 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1021 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span
|
|---|
| 1022 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Well we had to get in wood, we had to make sure
|
|---|
| 1023 | that we had um, um kindling wood for the fire to start the fire first thing
|
|---|
| 1024 | in the morning and um we used to help when it was time to make butter, we
|
|---|
| 1025 | made our own butter so we had to take turns at that we also at night had, we
|
|---|
| 1026 | had our a special chore that we had, we had these um four gallon tins of
|
|---|
| 1027 | kerosene and with a pump and we used to have to unscrew the tops of the where
|
|---|
| 1028 | the wicks were and fill up the um the bit where the glass bowls were with um
|
|---|
| 1029 | or the tin bowls with ah kerosene and then we used to um screw the tops back
|
|---|
| 1030 | on again and then we had to clean the lamp glasses to make sure they were
|
|---|
| 1031 | nice and clear and um get them all ready so that when it turned dark the
|
|---|
| 1032 | lamps could be lit, um we had candles also as an emergency but mum and dad
|
|---|
| 1033 | preferred the lamps because she they were safer, candles if they fell over
|
|---|
| 1034 | you could set the house on fire so mostly we had a lamp in each room.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1035 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1036 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1037 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1038 |
|
|---|
| 1039 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1040 |
|
|---|
| 1041 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Entertainment</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1042 |
|
|---|
| 1043 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
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|
|---|
| 1045 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1046 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1047 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1048 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:12:57</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1049 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1050 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1051 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>What did you do in terms of entertainment?
|
|---|
| 1052 | How did you amuse yourselves?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1053 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1054 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1055 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1056 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1057 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1058 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:13:06</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1059 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1060 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1061 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Well we had to, we had a piano, we all
|
|---|
| 1062 | learned to play the piano mostly by ear and um mind you I suppose we didnt
|
|---|
| 1063 | get so good but we were capable of, when we had dances um I could play
|
|---|
| 1064 | waltzes, my brother George could play waltzes, my brother George had a
|
|---|
| 1065 | saxophone, my brother Dick had a tenor banjo and um so everyone entertained
|
|---|
| 1066 | and we played music and everyone so we could dance or sing, um guitars
|
|---|
| 1067 | werent sort of the, the then really it was mostly ukuleles, tenor banjos and
|
|---|
| 1068 | saxophones and pianos, um that was my entertainment and then of course their
|
|---|
| 1069 | were all these ghost stories my grandfather he was a little, a little blue
|
|---|
| 1070 | eyed Englishman and um he used to tell us all about the tohunga in those days
|
|---|
| 1071 | and I dont know whether he tried to frighten us or but he just said it was a
|
|---|
| 1072 | fact of life in those days there were tohunga which were very powerful men he
|
|---|
| 1073 | said most of them did good they were for the good but he said some of them
|
|---|
| 1074 | were very powerful and then sometimes theyd<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1075 | </span>try and out power one another, and my mother and Uncle Jack was the
|
|---|
| 1076 | two eldest of his family and he had a run in with one of them called Friday
|
|---|
| 1077 | and Friday put a curse on the family, on his family said nothing would happen
|
|---|
| 1078 | to Eva or Jack but anyone after that, he wouldnt have any more children, I
|
|---|
| 1079 | think, I think he I think, think they lost about four children after um,<span
|
|---|
| 1080 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>mum was the eldest children then Uncle Jack
|
|---|
| 1081 | and they lost about four children so apparently my grandfather chased him
|
|---|
| 1082 | around the coast at <span style='color:#FF9900'>Kaputauaki</span> and got him
|
|---|
| 1083 | up a pohutakawa tree with an axe and he was he said he definitely would do
|
|---|
| 1084 | murder and he didnt, he was so sort of mad after the fourth child had died
|
|---|
| 1085 | he was sort of really upset and anyhow he made this tahonga take this curse
|
|---|
| 1086 | off the family and from then on the rest of the children lived so you know
|
|---|
| 1087 | we, we at first we didnt think, we thought grandma, granddad was fooling but
|
|---|
| 1088 | he said no it was a true story but he said he said he became great friends
|
|---|
| 1089 | with this old tohunga called Friday in the end</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1090 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1091 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1092 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1093 |
|
|---|
| 1094 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1095 |
|
|---|
| 1096 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Going to the movies</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1097 |
|
|---|
| 1098 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
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|
|---|
| 1100 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
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|
|---|
| 1102 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1103 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:16:17</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1104 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1105 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1106 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>You mentioned that you used to go to
|
|---|
| 1107 | Coromandel pictures Would you like to talk to us about that and some of the
|
|---|
| 1108 | areas you were concerned about on the way home and that sort of thing and
|
|---|
| 1109 | what were the pictures like?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1110 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1111 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1112 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1113 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1114 | <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span lang=EN-NZ
|
|---|
| 1115 | style='mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Mäori"'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
|
|---|
| 1116 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1117 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1118 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Well it was um the pictures in those days
|
|---|
| 1119 | were like the um they were big um <span style='color:#FF9900'>grander</span>
|
|---|
| 1120 | days of Hollywood when it was the um and you saw beautiful girls dressed in
|
|---|
| 1121 | crinolines dancing and it was really like a um a show and sometimes I dont
|
|---|
| 1122 | think theyd last very long but wed pay our money you know and wed all ride
|
|---|
| 1123 | over and all go to the pictures and have about thru-pence to spend and
|
|---|
| 1124 | because money went a long way in those days and you could get an ice cream I
|
|---|
| 1125 | think for a penny and biscuits for penny and lollies and then of course when
|
|---|
| 1126 | youd go home itd start get dark so of course great entertainment in the
|
|---|
| 1127 | olden days were all the children telling ghost stories and of course theyd
|
|---|
| 1128 | tell us, on the way home theyd all be, at one corner? there was this big stark
|
|---|
| 1129 | tree it was just big branches and one of my cousins said that someone had
|
|---|
| 1130 | been hung from that tree so of course we wouldnt go around the long way
|
|---|
| 1131 | around the bend wed there was a short cut through the tea-tree and it was
|
|---|
| 1132 | sort of very dark but wed rather go through that dark short cut than go
|
|---|
| 1133 | around and pass this big tree in case we sort of saw his ghost their hanging
|
|---|
| 1134 | you know but um there were a lot of stories like that on the way from
|
|---|
| 1135 | Coromandel to Kennedy Bay mm so um you know and then theyd say oh this is,
|
|---|
| 1136 | youd go over<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>a stream and theyd say
|
|---|
| 1137 | this is the stream where a coffin came floating down the river with a dead
|
|---|
| 1138 | man in it and wed think and you could almost imagine you know as youd go
|
|---|
| 1139 | across this stream youd be frightened youd bang into the coffin you know it
|
|---|
| 1140 | was but thats yeah it was part and parcel of the I suppose the stories in
|
|---|
| 1141 | those days</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1142 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1143 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1144 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1145 |
|
|---|
| 1146 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1147 |
|
|---|
| 1148 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>The Depression</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1149 |
|
|---|
| 1150 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
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|
|---|
| 1152 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
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|
|---|
| 1154 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1155 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:18:53</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1156 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1157 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1158 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>In terms of the collection of food, well
|
|---|
| 1159 | tell me about ah, ah how your, your dad used to order food and how one of your
|
|---|
| 1160 | classmates talked about the depression?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1161 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1162 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1163 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1164 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1165 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:19:11</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1166 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1167 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1168 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Oh, yes when I went to Otahu College I
|
|---|
| 1169 | was really, one of my friends started to ask me um how did we get on in the
|
|---|
| 1170 | depression, I didnt even know what a depression was, so I said to her well what
|
|---|
| 1171 | do you mean a, the depression and um she said oh when you have no food and
|
|---|
| 1172 | I said oh Ive never been without food and she said well, I said why what
|
|---|
| 1173 | did you do? And she said well she used to go the shop and buy tuppence worth
|
|---|
| 1174 | of tea and tuppence worth of sugar because it was all loose tea then no tea
|
|---|
| 1175 | bags and um sugar and things like that and I said oh no we didnt ah I said
|
|---|
| 1176 | no we didnt buy our food like that or even tuppence worth of sugar no I said
|
|---|
| 1177 | my father ordered ah food from a firm in Auckland and he used to go out on a
|
|---|
| 1178 | we had a this dingy and he used to go out to the scow, the scow used to come
|
|---|
| 1179 | down to Kennedy Bay and have all the groceries aboard hed go out and collect
|
|---|
| 1180 | our groceries and we used to get like seventy pound bags of sugar a hundred
|
|---|
| 1181 | pound bags of flour forty pound um cases of tea um of rice, forty pounds of
|
|---|
| 1182 | rice in boxes, forty pounds with a, like prunes in boxes and things like that
|
|---|
| 1183 | so you know I said well I dont know how we paid for it all I know is that
|
|---|
| 1184 | thats we had the food there and we never went without and then on the farm
|
|---|
| 1185 | we had our own cows, sheep, pigs um we always had the big garden we had one
|
|---|
| 1186 | field entirely of corn another field with potatoes, kumaras and we children
|
|---|
| 1187 | were encouraged to make our own little gardens we had own little gardens rows
|
|---|
| 1188 | of peas and beans and things like that so we had plenty of food we also had
|
|---|
| 1189 | like um fowls, ducks and always looking for we did have a fowl run but now
|
|---|
| 1190 | and again the ducks oh the ducks wed always be looking for ducks nests and
|
|---|
| 1191 | sometimes the fowls would get out and theyd have their own nests and wed be
|
|---|
| 1192 | hunting for eggs all the time but no we had plenty of food, we made our own
|
|---|
| 1193 | butter, mum had a big churn, these big paddles wooden paddles and youd turn
|
|---|
| 1194 | the handle and youd make butter and we had our own milk and cream um fruit
|
|---|
| 1195 | we had a big orchard so every year, mum had hundreds and hundreds of bottles
|
|---|
| 1196 | of fruit and jam we so um so food was not even a problem and I couldnt
|
|---|
| 1197 | understand how people were hungry would go hungry but I think thats the
|
|---|
| 1198 | beauty of being brought up on a farm in those days you know they always had
|
|---|
| 1199 | plenty to eat, it was quite funny wed take sandwiches to school with butter
|
|---|
| 1200 | and meat or jam or something and wed exchange it for um fried bread, maori
|
|---|
| 1201 | bread and all those delicacies which mum made now and again but not as much
|
|---|
| 1202 | as the other kids so we used to always exchange our lunches, our sandwiches
|
|---|
| 1203 | for those nice things.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1204 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1205 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1206 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1207 |
|
|---|
| 1208 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1209 |
|
|---|
| 1210 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>School Lessons</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1211 |
|
|---|
| 1212 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1213 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1214 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
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|
|---|
| 1216 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1217 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:23:19</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1218 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1219 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1220 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Is there anything you remember about school,
|
|---|
| 1221 | did you work with slate?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1222 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1223 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1224 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1225 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1226 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:23:24</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1227 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1228 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1229 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>ahh, Yes we had, we had slates with
|
|---|
| 1230 | boards and we also had, later on we had um sort of um we did have exercise
|
|---|
| 1231 | books but they were all um at the school they were all free then you know the
|
|---|
| 1232 | education system I thought in those days was very good because you learnt
|
|---|
| 1233 | reading, writing and like arithmetic you learnt basic things um we were lucky
|
|---|
| 1234 | we had a we were right next to the ahh a tidal river so during the summer
|
|---|
| 1235 | especially we had swimming, we had swimming lessons, learn to swim um we, we
|
|---|
| 1236 | were the lucky kids in Kennedy Bay because we were we didnt live the, we
|
|---|
| 1237 | always wanted to ride our horses to school but we werent allowed we lived to
|
|---|
| 1238 | close by the education department um rules so our dad bought a couple of bikes
|
|---|
| 1239 | and George would double me to school and my ah brother Dick would double Kyla
|
|---|
| 1240 | and um we used to sometimes we used to swap with our cousins from <span
|
|---|
| 1241 | style='color:#FF9900'>Tutua</span>, the Bells and they used to ride the
|
|---|
| 1242 | horses over we used to swap wed ride the horses and theyd ride the bikes
|
|---|
| 1243 | but um because we had a we only had a I think an acre paddock and so the
|
|---|
| 1244 | horses were only there were only enough people who lived out of the area to
|
|---|
| 1245 | ride the horses because the horses had to be contained during school. </span></p>
|
|---|
| 1246 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1247 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1248 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1249 |
|
|---|
| 1250 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1251 |
|
|---|
| 1252 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Going to School</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1253 |
|
|---|
| 1254 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1255 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1256 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1257 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1258 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1259 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:25:32</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1260 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1261 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1262 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>What were some of the interesting things
|
|---|
| 1263 | that you can remember about being at school, or going to school?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1264 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1265 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1266 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1267 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1268 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:25:54</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1269 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1270 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1271 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Well we were lucky I suppose we always
|
|---|
| 1272 | had, we always had shoes on our feet, or those short you know little gumboots,
|
|---|
| 1273 | things like that and little suitcases to take our lunch in because I remember
|
|---|
| 1274 | once we, we were coking home from school I put my I took my gumboots off and
|
|---|
| 1275 | I put my ahh my little suitcase down when I hopped off the main road there
|
|---|
| 1276 | was like a causeway and um to make myself black mud gumboots and we used to
|
|---|
| 1277 | get all the kids from up and down the road would walk in the black mud and
|
|---|
| 1278 | youd get gumboots half right up to your knees just about and we used to
|
|---|
| 1279 | think they were lovely mum used to make us scrub our feet when we got home
|
|---|
| 1280 | and I remember once I took off my gumboots and put my suitcase down and when
|
|---|
| 1281 | I came to get it in the meantime the tide had come in and my suitcase and
|
|---|
| 1282 | gumboots had floated away somewhere I dont know but I didnt get a hiding but
|
|---|
| 1283 | I got a growling when I got home and um mum said Id have to wait now until a
|
|---|
| 1284 | boat came down from Auckland or else someone would have to go to Coromandel
|
|---|
| 1285 | to replace my gumboots and little suitcase for my lunch and so from then on
|
|---|
| 1286 | until the little suitcase came back I had to take my lunch in a paper bag
|
|---|
| 1287 | which wasnt, wasnt very nice as far as I was concerned because that meant I
|
|---|
| 1288 | had no suitcase and all the kids would look at me much to say oh she hasnt
|
|---|
| 1289 | even got anything to bring her lunch in so </span></p>
|
|---|
| 1290 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1291 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1292 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1293 |
|
|---|
| 1294 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1295 |
|
|---|
| 1296 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Being Well-off</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1297 |
|
|---|
| 1298 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1299 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1300 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1301 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1302 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1303 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:27:44</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1304 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1305 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1306 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>You were considered to be quite well off
|
|---|
| 1307 | though, your family were considered to be by other people</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1308 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1309 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1310 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1311 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1312 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:27:53</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1313 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1314 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1315 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Yeah well yes, well I suppose so because
|
|---|
| 1316 | we had um we had plenty of clothes, we had one good lot of clothes, our best clothes
|
|---|
| 1317 | which we kept for church, if we went to church on a Sunday or mum used to
|
|---|
| 1318 | take these Sunday schools and wed have to get all dressed up and um go to
|
|---|
| 1319 | church in our new clothes but no we, we never went without shoes because we
|
|---|
| 1320 | used to on the way to school if we walked, before we got our bikes and wed
|
|---|
| 1321 | walk we had um there would be ice in the water you know and wed jump in the
|
|---|
| 1322 | ice all the way down to school but um no we, I suppose we were luckier than
|
|---|
| 1323 | most children mm yeah mind you dad was one of the it was the bush boss for
|
|---|
| 1324 | Oddlands who I met later on because I worked for the Taupo Totara Timber
|
|---|
| 1325 | Company when I worked in Auckland and Mr Oddland came in one time and when I
|
|---|
| 1326 | was introduced to him he said oh my bush foreman name was, was named
|
|---|
| 1327 | Thwaites must have been your grandfather and I said no that was, John
|
|---|
| 1328 | Thwaites and I said no that was my dad, and he says oh hed be too old
|
|---|
| 1329 | wouldnt he? I says oh my dad was twenty five years older than my mother and
|
|---|
| 1330 | he looked at me and he just laughed he said oh dirty old man.<span
|
|---|
| 1331 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But it was quite nice to meet Mr Oddman
|
|---|
| 1332 | after all those years mm so</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1333 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1334 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1335 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1336 |
|
|---|
| 1337 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1338 |
|
|---|
| 1339 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Family Home</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1340 |
|
|---|
| 1341 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1342 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1343 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1344 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1345 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1346 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:29:35</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1347 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1348 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1349 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Tell me about the house you lived in.
|
|---|
| 1350 | That, what you remember about the house that you lived in as a little girl</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1351 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1352 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1353 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1354 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1355 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:29:41</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1356 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1357 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1358 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Well the house is still standing today
|
|---|
| 1359 | and its in quite good condition because it was um made of Kauri and some of
|
|---|
| 1360 | the boards are still
|
|---|
| 1361 | </span></p>
|
|---|
| 1362 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>( tape cuts out.)</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1363 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>as good today, I think the windows have
|
|---|
| 1364 | been replaced because mainly um because the pulleys it was the old fashioned
|
|---|
| 1365 | pulleys and um, they sort of um rusted, rusted and yeah, but other than that
|
|---|
| 1366 | I think new windows have been put in um actually my nephew stays there now
|
|---|
| 1367 | its really lovely down there hes, when his mother came back from England she
|
|---|
| 1368 | was the our eldest sister, she went home to live and she did it all up and
|
|---|
| 1369 | put new back you know a back part she put on but the four front rooms are
|
|---|
| 1370 | solid kauri and theyre still standing today, nothing wrong with them and so
|
|---|
| 1371 | we you know we had a we probably had a good life</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1372 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1373 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1374 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1375 |
|
|---|
| 1376 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1377 |
|
|---|
| 1378 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1379 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1380 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1381 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1382 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1383 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:30:46</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1384 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1385 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1386 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>You talked about ahh having a small, it
|
|---|
| 1387 | was expanded on and how you had a small kitchen to start with</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1388 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1389 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1390 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1391 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1392 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:30:56</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1393 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1394 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1395 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Yeah it, the, the one of the two back rooms
|
|---|
| 1396 | was kitchen but it was only small it had a, had an open fire then dad put a
|
|---|
| 1397 | stove in it and ah it was alright when there was just like when all the all
|
|---|
| 1398 | my brothers and sisters went away to Auckland to nurse in nursing homes or
|
|---|
| 1399 | nurse in hospitals and my, my eldest brother went away to work and when they
|
|---|
| 1400 | came home at Christmas of course theyd bring girlfriends and boyfriends back
|
|---|
| 1401 | so my father decided to build a big kitchen at the back and um that was um oh
|
|---|
| 1402 | that was like a little hall and for the two years we had a dirt floor and a
|
|---|
| 1403 | big chimney at the end where we had seats at the side so when the fire youd
|
|---|
| 1404 | put a just about a, could put a whole log on it, it was built up to the side
|
|---|
| 1405 | with concrete and it had two railway sleepers that used to hold copper kettles,
|
|---|
| 1406 | boilers and um it was sort of um a big pole along above the open fire and um
|
|---|
| 1407 | youd always see a piece of bacon smoking underneath the fire and um we used
|
|---|
| 1408 | to well my grandfather used to come over to stay with us wed sit around the
|
|---|
| 1409 | fire, bring a stool up and sit around the fire, hed tell us all these ghost
|
|---|
| 1410 | stories and things like that or, or what he used to do when he um when he um
|
|---|
| 1411 | before he came out from England and then while he used to move around the
|
|---|
| 1412 | Coromandel county and how he met our grandmother</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1413 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1414 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1415 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1416 |
|
|---|
| 1417 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1418 |
|
|---|
| 1419 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Grandparents</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1420 |
|
|---|
| 1421 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1422 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1423 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1424 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1425 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1426 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:32:56</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1427 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1428 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1429 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Can you tell me about that</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1430 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1431 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1432 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1433 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1434 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:32:58</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1435 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1436 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1437 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span
|
|---|
| 1438 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Yes it was quite, actually it was quite
|
|---|
| 1439 | funny, we thought it was quite romantic but um apparently quite a few of the people
|
|---|
| 1440 | come out from England and most of them, because there were no Europeans in
|
|---|
| 1441 | that area at the time, there were quite a few like the Maori girls and it
|
|---|
| 1442 | paid the European boys to marry the Maori girls because a lot of them owned
|
|---|
| 1443 | land and um they said it was quite funny my, they apparently, they were all
|
|---|
| 1444 | looking these boys over and my grandmother said to her father, Id like, Id
|
|---|
| 1445 | like that man with the red beard, he seems, he looks nice and that was my
|
|---|
| 1446 | grandfather and um apparently um a deal was done or whatever and he married
|
|---|
| 1447 | my grandmother um that was, she was Mere Te Aorere<span style='color:#FF9900'>
|
|---|
| 1448 | </span>and um they had quite a few children and my mother was the eldest of
|
|---|
| 1449 | that family</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1450 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1451 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1452 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1453 |
|
|---|
| 1454 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1455 |
|
|---|
| 1456 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Family</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1457 |
|
|---|
| 1458 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1459 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1460 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1461 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1462 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1463 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:34:15</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1464 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1465 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1466 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>How many were in that family</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1467 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1468 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1469 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1470 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1471 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:34:23</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1472 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1473 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1474 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>umm,
|
|---|
| 1475 | I um well, there was mother which, her names Eva, Jack, Sarah, Dick, Sonny
|
|---|
| 1476 | Holvelle<span style='color:#FF9900'>,</span> Sonny George, Emma, Ilton, <st1:place
|
|---|
| 1477 | w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Myra</st1:City></st1:place>, did I say Sarah?
|
|---|
| 1478 | Yeah I said Sarah, there were about nine and then there were the ones that
|
|---|
| 1479 | she lost in between Jack and Sarah mmm so it was quite a big family, my Uncle
|
|---|
| 1480 | Sonny Holvelle was a dentist and he was also a curator of the <st1:place
|
|---|
| 1481 | w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Christchurch</st1:City></st1:place> museum I
|
|---|
| 1482 | think mm</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1483 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1484 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1485 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1486 |
|
|---|
| 1487 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1488 |
|
|---|
| 1489 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Attitudes towards Maori</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1490 |
|
|---|
| 1491 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
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|
|---|
| 1493 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1494 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1495 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1496 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:35:22</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1497 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1498 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1499 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Did ah, you mentioned that your dad was not
|
|---|
| 1500 | into things Maori because he didnt think that that would help you</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1501 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1502 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1503 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1504 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1505 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:35:33</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1506 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1507 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1508 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>No
|
|---|
| 1509 | my father was very, my dad never went to school but he could um, he was quite
|
|---|
| 1510 | clever he could write and he had a lovely flowing hand like a copyright hand he
|
|---|
| 1511 | also I think Ive got some of his writing in my room um he also could um work
|
|---|
| 1512 | out timber in the bush, he could look at a stand of timber and tell almost to
|
|---|
| 1513 | the to the fifty feet how much super thered be there or how much lineal feet
|
|---|
| 1514 | would be in standard timber, um he worked for Odlands in Newmarket mm, Ive
|
|---|
| 1515 | actually had the privilege later of meeting Mr Odlands who remembered my dad,
|
|---|
| 1516 | yeah.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1517 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1518 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1519 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1520 |
|
|---|
| 1521 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1522 |
|
|---|
| 1523 | <h1><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><span lang=EN-NZ>Reading</span></st1:City></st1:place><span
|
|---|
| 1524 | lang=EN-NZ> </span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1525 |
|
|---|
| 1526 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1527 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1528 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1529 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1530 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1531 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:36:37</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1532 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1533 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1534 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Did he, as children did you read, was
|
|---|
| 1535 | their much reading material in your house</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1536 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1537 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1538 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1539 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1540 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:36:46</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1541 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1542 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1543 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span
|
|---|
| 1544 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Yes, every, every Christmas, every birthday
|
|---|
| 1545 | we would get a book, always a book and um because my dad said it was a
|
|---|
| 1546 | European world um he would not, he didnt teach us Maori but he and mum could
|
|---|
| 1547 | speak fluently but they would never, they would only, when they spoke Maori
|
|---|
| 1548 | in the house it was only scandal that he didnt want us to understand and
|
|---|
| 1549 | hear about the, you know little children have big ears and wed listen for a
|
|---|
| 1550 | name and then wed think ooh whats that about that person? But other than
|
|---|
| 1551 | that no we didnt understand a word he said.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1552 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1553 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1554 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1555 |
|
|---|
| 1556 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1557 |
|
|---|
| 1558 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1559 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1560 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1561 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1562 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1563 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1564 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1565 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1566 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Did, did they read to you, did they teach
|
|---|
| 1567 | you to read or how did you learn how to read apart from going to school, or
|
|---|
| 1568 | was it at school?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1569 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1570 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1571 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1572 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1573 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1574 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1575 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1576 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span
|
|---|
| 1577 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Well, at school, at school and our older brothers
|
|---|
| 1578 | and sister would come home and we could almost read and we knew all the
|
|---|
| 1579 | alphabet and numbers before we went to school it was just ah, it was just
|
|---|
| 1580 | that dad, my father was very um education orientated and as I said when he,
|
|---|
| 1581 | before he died he left his will that mum could manage, mum had the had the um
|
|---|
| 1582 | could manage the farm but we had to be sent away to school and thats what
|
|---|
| 1583 | she did she sent the younger ones, once dad died my brother George and
|
|---|
| 1584 | Kathleen and Gordon and I we all went to school, Gordon became a school
|
|---|
| 1585 | teacher later</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1586 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1587 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1588 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1589 |
|
|---|
| 1590 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1591 |
|
|---|
| 1592 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Living in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Auckland</st1:City></st1:place></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1593 |
|
|---|
| 1594 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1595 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1596 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1597 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1598 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1599 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:38:29</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1600 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1601 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1602 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Going to, ah going to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
|
|---|
| 1603 | w:st="on">Auckland</st1:City></st1:place> must have been a huge change for
|
|---|
| 1604 | you</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1605 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1606 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1607 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1608 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1609 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:38:38</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1610 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1611 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1612 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>aah Yes, yes I suppose it was but I was lucky
|
|---|
| 1613 | because at that time my eldest brother Bob he used to board with my sister
|
|---|
| 1614 | and he worked at the freezing works and so I mean we didnt, never wanted for
|
|---|
| 1615 | anything when my sister said I needed new clothes or things like that hed
|
|---|
| 1616 | buy us clothes so we, we always had and of course and then um mum had shares
|
|---|
| 1617 | in the farm as trading company because thats what you did in those days you
|
|---|
| 1618 | had shares in this and shares in that and um so of course we got the if we
|
|---|
| 1619 | wanted anything mum would just write a note and wed take it to the farmers
|
|---|
| 1620 | and wed get what ever we wanted but the farm, money from the farm like the
|
|---|
| 1621 | we all we sent the cream to the dairy company and of course then we got quite
|
|---|
| 1622 | a good price for, for um the butter fat.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1623 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1624 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1625 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1626 |
|
|---|
| 1627 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1628 |
|
|---|
| 1629 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Household Chores</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1630 |
|
|---|
| 1631 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1632 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1633 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1634 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1635 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1636 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:39:48</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1637 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1638 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1639 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>What were the chores that you actually had
|
|---|
| 1640 | to do? Did you have to do chores?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1641 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1642 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1643 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1644 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1645 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:39:57</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1646 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1647 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1648 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>um Yes only as I said before only um
|
|---|
| 1649 | doing the um filling the lamps and things and get the kindling wood and stuff
|
|---|
| 1650 | like that um ah mind you we had to help, when we got older we had to help mum
|
|---|
| 1651 | wash, wash clothes and because there was only the old scrubbing board then
|
|---|
| 1652 | there was no washing machine so we, we used to go down to the creek and
|
|---|
| 1653 | sometimes mum would ah oh my eldest brother made a sort of copper, we used to
|
|---|
| 1654 | boil up the copper down by the creek with plenty of I mean there was wood all
|
|---|
| 1655 | around us there was plenty of fire wood and um anything that needed to be
|
|---|
| 1656 | boiled wed boil it in the copper and we had um galvanised bath tubs and um
|
|---|
| 1657 | and wed use those and help mum do the washing hang it up on the line mm we
|
|---|
| 1658 | had those old mother pots iron you know? So youd have to make sure the iron
|
|---|
| 1659 | because youd put them, put it on the embers because the irons would get
|
|---|
| 1660 | black wasnt so bad once we had a stove wed put it on the stove and it
|
|---|
| 1661 | wasnt, it you had to clean the top of the stove but if you put it in the
|
|---|
| 1662 | embers of course youd get it out and youd have to clean it first before you
|
|---|
| 1663 | ironed anything or have, put a handkerchief or something over whatever you
|
|---|
| 1664 | wanted to iron flat so that it wouldnt, you wouldnt put dirt.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1665 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1666 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1667 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1668 |
|
|---|
| 1669 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1670 |
|
|---|
| 1671 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Horses</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1672 |
|
|---|
| 1673 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1674 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1675 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1676 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1677 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1678 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:41:34</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1679 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1680 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1681 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Who looked after the horses?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1682 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1683 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1684 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1685 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1686 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1687 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:41:38</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1688 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1689 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1690 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Oh we all, we all took it in turns we had
|
|---|
| 1691 | horses, oh we had paddocks horses and if we wanted to go, like if mum felt
|
|---|
| 1692 | like pipis wed hop on the horse with a spritz sack and race off down to the
|
|---|
| 1693 | beach and give the horses, someone would stand up on the um stand up on the
|
|---|
| 1694 | um like on the dunes, sand dunes and mind the horses there and someone would
|
|---|
| 1695 | have to go down and pick the pipis up and then come back with heaps of pipis</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1696 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1697 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1698 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1699 |
|
|---|
| 1700 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1701 |
|
|---|
| 1702 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Food Gatherings</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1703 |
|
|---|
| 1704 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1705 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1706 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1707 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1708 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1709 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:42:16</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1710 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1711 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1712 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Was there a special place that you went to
|
|---|
| 1713 | did you go to the same place? At the moment supermarket its at the same
|
|---|
| 1714 | place. In the old days when you went to get pipis did you go to any
|
|---|
| 1715 | particular place, did the old people send you to one place or what?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1716 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1717 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1718 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1719 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1720 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:42:32</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1721 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1722 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1723 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>um Well I all depended what, what you
|
|---|
| 1724 | wanted um in one part, one part of the beach like in the center part you had,
|
|---|
| 1725 | you had your um you know by you had um trees that youd watch you had marks
|
|---|
| 1726 | so youd go straight our from a tree and then youd mark it off with
|
|---|
| 1727 | something the other end of the beach, either end so youd, youd sort of get
|
|---|
| 1728 | right on that spot, there you would get cockles the bigger cockles and then
|
|---|
| 1729 | if you wanted the flat pipis youd go further along the beach or closer to my
|
|---|
| 1730 | uncles place where there was a tidal river going up past his property and
|
|---|
| 1731 | just there, there were the flat pipis so </span></p>
|
|---|
| 1732 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span
|
|---|
| 1733 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Thats right, yeah thats right, yes and
|
|---|
| 1734 | they were the long flat ones but the cockles were further up the beach the
|
|---|
| 1735 | main beach um also in the winter then I dont know, I dont know whether I havent
|
|---|
| 1736 | heard of anyone getting them now but in my day um theyre probably all fished
|
|---|
| 1737 | out now but in my day in the winter youd go along the beach and frost fish
|
|---|
| 1738 | would, would um come up chasing the frost and theyd land on the beach and,
|
|---|
| 1739 | and sort of get stuck so youd walk along the beach and pick up these big
|
|---|
| 1740 | long fish, long, long fish, like an eel but flat, all flat they were called
|
|---|
| 1741 | frost fish and but they were beautiful to eat and that happened in the winter</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1742 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1743 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1744 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1745 |
|
|---|
| 1746 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1747 |
|
|---|
| 1748 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Mussel Grounds</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1749 |
|
|---|
| 1750 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1751 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1752 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1753 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1754 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1755 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:44:26</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1756 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1757 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1758 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Whered you get your mussels from?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1759 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
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| 1760 | </td>
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| 1761 | </tr>
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|
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|
|---|
| 1764 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:44:30</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1765 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1766 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
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| 1767 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>um Well, there, we did have some help
|
|---|
| 1768 | theres a, a series of rocks called the umbrellas they look like umbrellas
|
|---|
| 1769 | and around from there you would get mussels but they werent very big so my sister
|
|---|
| 1770 | Kyla and I used to ride over to Coromandel and then go down to Kaupatauki to
|
|---|
| 1771 | my sister and her husband<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Mt Maunganui
|
|---|
| 1772 | ? and we would go down to Paparaha, take us down to Paparaha and wed fill up
|
|---|
| 1773 | sacks with a couple of horses and, and, and um get mussels from there but on
|
|---|
| 1774 | our way back there were two or three old places, old um Mac Kirikis dad I
|
|---|
| 1775 | think old Mac quarry he had a little old hut we used to call in and drop
|
|---|
| 1776 | mussels off with him, you did that in the olden days if you got food and you
|
|---|
| 1777 | met, and there were, you knew there were old people on the way youd drop
|
|---|
| 1778 | them so wed drop some off to old McQuarry wed drop some off to um oh what
|
|---|
| 1779 | was his name? Um Ive forgotten the names now and also too coming along to
|
|---|
| 1780 | Aunty Myra and Uncle um um
|
|---|
| 1781 | Aunty Myra, Aunty Mates sister they used to live
|
|---|
| 1782 | up in the hill and we used to quite often drop and um, um Prop, Prop
|
|---|
| 1783 | Williams, we used to drop them off mussels too and um then wed come home
|
|---|
| 1784 | and, and wed sometimes, wed shell some and sometimes wed leave them in the
|
|---|
| 1785 | shell and then take them back to Kennedy Bay</span><span style='mso-ansi-language:
|
|---|
| 1786 | EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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|---|
| 1787 | </td>
|
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| 1788 | </tr>
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| 1789 | </table>
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| 1790 |
|
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| 1791 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
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| 1792 |
|
|---|
| 1793 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Crayfish & Paua</span></h1>
|
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| 1794 |
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|
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| 1800 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:46:38</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1801 | </td>
|
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| 1802 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1803 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>: Did you get crayfish and paua?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1804 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1805 | </tr>
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| 1806 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1807 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1808 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:46:42</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1809 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1810 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1811 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>ahh Yes in Kennedy Bay we did um pauas
|
|---|
| 1812 | just around by the umbrellas there were quite a, if we wanted any and or we else
|
|---|
| 1813 | we used to go over to Titiawa that was over to my Auntys I had two Auntys
|
|---|
| 1814 | living in Titiawa Mrs Bellens Pickering or, Mrs, she was Mrs Bright first and
|
|---|
| 1815 | then she divorced um my uncle and she married Ho Pickering?<span
|
|---|
| 1816 | style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1817 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1818 | </tr>
|
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| 1819 | </table>
|
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| 1820 |
|
|---|
| 1821 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1822 |
|
|---|
| 1823 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Gardens</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1824 |
|
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| 1825 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
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|
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| 1829 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1830 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:47:18</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1831 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1832 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1833 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Where there tasks that the men did as
|
|---|
| 1834 | opposed to the girls I mean what about um, um gardening? Did you put gardens
|
|---|
| 1835 | down?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1836 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1837 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1838 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1839 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1840 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:47:29</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1841 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1842 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1843 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Oh we put big gardens down and we had oh
|
|---|
| 1844 | we had a um we had corn and um we used to, oh um corn were for the chooks and
|
|---|
| 1845 | we used to eat them, just the ordinary corn it wasnt like the corn you have
|
|---|
| 1846 | now the sweet corn but it was just, when it was fresh it was just as nice um
|
|---|
| 1847 | and we also had gardens with kumaras, potatos and <span style='color:#FF9900'>?</span>
|
|---|
| 1848 | yes we had all our own vegetables and we had um the children we each had a
|
|---|
| 1849 | garden each planted peas and beans dad used to get us packets of seeds and we
|
|---|
| 1850 | used to have our own little gardens beetroot and stuff like that and um we um
|
|---|
| 1851 | so and we had fruit aah we had apricots, peaches, pears, plums, nectarines we
|
|---|
| 1852 | even had prunes dad had, cherry trees, guava trees we had a huge big orchard
|
|---|
| 1853 | and then dad had his special orchards of um golden queen peaches and
|
|---|
| 1854 | nectarines all along um the river because he said that was the best place
|
|---|
| 1855 | because every year<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>the when there was
|
|---|
| 1856 | a flood the silt came up and deposited the silt on the, under the trees mm.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1857 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1858 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1859 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1860 |
|
|---|
| 1861 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1862 |
|
|---|
| 1863 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Diary Produce</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1864 |
|
|---|
| 1865 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
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| 1867 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1868 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1869 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1870 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:49:03</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1871 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1872 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1873 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Did you produce food for yourselves or for
|
|---|
| 1874 | market?: </span></p>
|
|---|
| 1875 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1876 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1877 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1878 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1879 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:49:06</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1880 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1881 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1882 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>um Well we milked the cows and separated the
|
|---|
| 1883 | cream and um so the cream went to the factory in Coromandel we made our,
|
|---|
| 1884 | because dad had pigs he sent some of the pork away to be made into ham he
|
|---|
| 1885 | also we also made our own bacon you could eat off the floor of our dairy dad
|
|---|
| 1886 | had a scrubber, we had these big scrubbers and scrubbing brushes and once a
|
|---|
| 1887 | week you had to get down on your knees and scrub the whole thing out and,
|
|---|
| 1888 | and, and get buckets of water and slosh it down and then dad laid the bacon
|
|---|
| 1889 | down on the floor on clean bags which we had to scrub and um he threw salt
|
|---|
| 1890 | peter onto the bacon actually I saw a, a um programme on T.V the other day of
|
|---|
| 1891 | someone making their own bacon now and they were doing it exactly the way my
|
|---|
| 1892 | father did it, it was quite a, quite an interesting programme and um yeah so
|
|---|
| 1893 | it was quite good we used to sneak, when the peaches were ripe, we had those
|
|---|
| 1894 | king stone peaches and you know you broke them in half and there was a little
|
|---|
| 1895 | hole where the pip was and we used to ah get a cup and put it under the
|
|---|
| 1896 | separator grab some cream and fill up those little holes, ooh yummy peaches
|
|---|
| 1897 | and cream fresh, of course never let dad see us do that he was very strict.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1898 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1899 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1900 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1901 |
|
|---|
| 1902 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1903 |
|
|---|
| 1904 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1905 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1906 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1907 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1908 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1909 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:50:50</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1910 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1911 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1912 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>You were telling me about one of your
|
|---|
| 1913 | brothers and how you were picking plums</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1914 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1915 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1916 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 1917 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1918 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:50:51</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1919 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1920 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1921 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Oh right, oh yes, we every year around
|
|---|
| 1922 | Christmas time we had our plums would get ripe we had little Christmas plums
|
|---|
| 1923 | we also had the big <span style='color:#FF9900'>Sastermin</span> plums big
|
|---|
| 1924 | tree of Satsermin plums and my brother this year this tree was beautiful, was
|
|---|
| 1925 | lovely red it was a red, a red plum tree and a yellow tree both very sweet
|
|---|
| 1926 | and it was the red plum tree Dick wanted plums from the top of the tree which
|
|---|
| 1927 | wasnt very it was quite slender branches and you couldnt climb up and we
|
|---|
| 1928 | had no ladder at them time so he decided hed get the axe and chop down the
|
|---|
| 1929 | branch and hed have the plums he went to chop the tree down and the axe
|
|---|
| 1930 | slipped and<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>cut off his little toe so
|
|---|
| 1931 | at that time of course we had fowl and ducks running around and the duck came
|
|---|
| 1932 | and saw something instead of I think he, I think he thought it was a plum and
|
|---|
| 1933 | he grabbed up my brothers toe and my sister Kyla and I chased him because we
|
|---|
| 1934 | wanted to get the toe back of the duck so my mother could sew it back on
|
|---|
| 1935 | Dick, dicks um toe again we yeah we werent worried about how wrapping up the
|
|---|
| 1936 | toe or anything and anyhow Dick well he, he all he kept saying was dont eat
|
|---|
| 1937 | all those plums as he ran up for mum to um wrap up his toe, but you know its
|
|---|
| 1938 | just things kids get up to um my brother, we used to have lots of fun, my
|
|---|
| 1939 | brother we used to make houses you know there was plenty of Teatree and Nikau
|
|---|
| 1940 | you could plait it you know make a roof like the natives did in, on those
|
|---|
| 1941 | islands and then youd ah we had axes and spades and things down in the bush
|
|---|
| 1942 | wed have all these um make huts, I mean we were making the real thing not
|
|---|
| 1943 | just with blankets and boxes like the kids do now we and plenty of sticks
|
|---|
| 1944 | and, and there was so much tea tree around to make a hut and my brother used
|
|---|
| 1945 | to my brother was a real hot shot with a sling gun, slingshot or a bow and
|
|---|
| 1946 | arrow wed make our own bows and arrows, he could shoot anything and hed,
|
|---|
| 1947 | wed decide wed have a hangi at different times and hed, hed prepare
|
|---|
| 1948 | everything and then hed go out and shoot we had a lot of a <span
|
|---|
| 1949 | style='color:#FF9900'>??? little fantails?,</span> sparrows, anything, the things
|
|---|
| 1950 | we ate when we were children and um hed get all these things and wed have
|
|---|
| 1951 | to pluck, Kyla and I would have to pluck them and wash them and, and, take
|
|---|
| 1952 | the tummies out and then hed go, someone would have to run home and get<span
|
|---|
| 1953 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>potatoes and wed get watercress from the
|
|---|
| 1954 | creek or puha and put it all into this hangi and wed have a great old feed
|
|---|
| 1955 | its a wonder we werent poisoned but however but they were the best meals
|
|---|
| 1956 | and um but thats what we used to do for fun, as I said dad had made us a
|
|---|
| 1957 | tennis court for when the older girls and boys come from Auckland and we used
|
|---|
| 1958 | to put up the net and play tennis, yes we also had, also had plenty of board
|
|---|
| 1959 | games mum, um my brothers and sisters always used to bring us down you know
|
|---|
| 1960 | snakes and ladders and draughts wed learn how to play um card games like
|
|---|
| 1961 | five hundred and <span style='color:#FF9900'>Eucha </span>and things like
|
|---|
| 1962 | that, crib my father was a great cribbage man and he said it was good for you
|
|---|
| 1963 | because it learnt, taught you how to count so wed sit up some quite often an
|
|---|
| 1964 | play um cribbage with dad, yeah picnics and we were lucky because we had um
|
|---|
| 1965 | was <span style='color:#FF9900'>Kennedy Bay?</span> was a great fundraising
|
|---|
| 1966 | place you know? Um most of the farmers, well most of them had money so you
|
|---|
| 1967 | know so wed have really nice prizes wed have tennis rackets and dolls and
|
|---|
| 1968 | all sorts of things you know for prizes for the kids at school, books those
|
|---|
| 1969 | boys own, girls own, great big thick books and we had necklaces and bangles
|
|---|
| 1970 | and things you know so really um school picnics were really something to look
|
|---|
| 1971 | forward to um theyd have running races and different things yeah um we also
|
|---|
| 1972 | had dances at the local hall everybody learned how to dance when I remember
|
|---|
| 1973 | when I was um I was about seven or eight dad would let us go to the dances
|
|---|
| 1974 | with mum as long as it was mum that took us and we got up and danced because
|
|---|
| 1975 | all the other children, school children were there and youd have to dance
|
|---|
| 1976 | with two girls would get up and two boys would come and get you and youd
|
|---|
| 1977 | think, youd say why dont you go and get somebody else and um no then Uncle
|
|---|
| 1978 | Joe Ngapo, hed play his old accordion and hed say come on you girls, dance
|
|---|
| 1979 | with the boys and youd have to dance with a boy but nearly every child in
|
|---|
| 1980 | Kennedy Bay could dance it was a great um outing for everybody</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1981 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1982 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 1983 | </table>
|
|---|
| 1984 |
|
|---|
| 1985 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 1986 |
|
|---|
| 1987 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Families in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Kennedy</st1:PlaceName>
|
|---|
| 1988 | <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Bay</st1:PlaceType></st1:place></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 1989 |
|
|---|
| 1990 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 1991 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 1992 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
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| 1993 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
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| 1994 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1995 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:56:54</span></p>
|
|---|
| 1996 | </td>
|
|---|
| 1997 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 1998 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Have you any idea how many more people
|
|---|
| 1999 | live in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Kennedy</st1:PlaceName>
|
|---|
| 2000 | <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Bay</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>? How many families
|
|---|
| 2001 | were there maybe and how many children </span></p>
|
|---|
| 2002 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2003 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2004 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2005 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2006 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:56:56</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2007 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2008 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2009 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Oh there were a lot of, there were a lot
|
|---|
| 2010 | of all the families were big families like the <st1:place w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place>
|
|---|
| 2011 | she had how many? Mrs Harrison, she had, she was one of, she came later on
|
|---|
| 2012 | Hales were there first, Hales had about twelve, um Uncle, some, some of them
|
|---|
| 2013 | were older than us and theyd gone away to work but then and Ngapo they had
|
|---|
| 2014 | nineteen in their family, we had or, mum had twelve um oh, my cousins didnt
|
|---|
| 2015 | have very big families I think my Aunty had three or four, that lived um
|
|---|
| 2016 | Aunty, Aunty um Aunty Sarah had about three but most of the families and they
|
|---|
| 2017 | were all big families so wed have wed be about thirty six forty going to
|
|---|
| 2018 | school </span></p>
|
|---|
| 2019 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2020 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2021 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2022 |
|
|---|
| 2023 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2024 |
|
|---|
| 2025 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Providing for hui</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 2026 |
|
|---|
| 2027 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2028 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
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| 2029 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
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| 2030 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2031 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2032 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:58:04</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2033 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2034 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2035 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>You were telling me about working
|
|---|
| 2036 | together.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2037 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2038 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2039 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2040 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2041 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:58:07</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2042 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2043 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2044 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>You know so, everybody knew everybody
|
|---|
| 2045 | else you know it was good too same sort of thing happened when we had a tangi
|
|---|
| 2046 | in the district um my dad always gave the meat he always killed a beast a pig
|
|---|
| 2047 | and then the Ngapos they we the they were the, they had big gardens they had
|
|---|
| 2048 | big garden of kumaras corn and potatos and they always supplied, always gave
|
|---|
| 2049 | the vegetables um the others would bring would go and get the kaimoana and so
|
|---|
| 2050 | someone would go out and in a boat and catch fish another would go out
|
|---|
| 2051 | somewhere and get mussels <span style='color:#FF9900'>??fennel?</span> and so
|
|---|
| 2052 | our tangis were always we had plenty to eat at our tangis and it was all
|
|---|
| 2053 | given by the, people gave what they could give</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2054 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2055 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2056 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2057 |
|
|---|
| 2058 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2059 |
|
|---|
| 2060 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Tangihanga</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 2061 |
|
|---|
| 2062 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2063 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2064 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2065 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2066 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2067 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:59:16</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2068 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2069 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2070 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Did um if there was a tangi was it held a
|
|---|
| 2071 | bit like tangis today or was it different?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2072 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2073 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2074 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1'>
|
|---|
| 2075 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2076 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:59:24</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2077 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2078 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2079 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>um They lasted longer because we had a lot
|
|---|
| 2080 | of people, we had a lot of, in Kennedy Bay we had a lot of Ngati Porou people
|
|---|
| 2081 | and they had to let them, ring them up at the East coast and they had to come
|
|---|
| 2082 | up by bus as far as Thames I think, Thames or Coromandel and then they had to
|
|---|
| 2083 | come over some of them would have to, it wasnt so bad when the road was
|
|---|
| 2084 | decent other than that every one had to go into Coromandel and take horses
|
|---|
| 2085 | and theyd ride over but no wed theyd go to the pa where the Ngapos were
|
|---|
| 2086 | you could hear them you could hear them coming way up the road you know you
|
|---|
| 2087 | could hear the waiatas and it was a real, it was real awesome sight in the
|
|---|
| 2088 | olden days it was um they didnt sort of hold them selves in check you know
|
|---|
| 2089 | you could they, they, youd hear them coming the people coming and theyd
|
|---|
| 2090 | come and it wouldnt just be one or two theyd be just about a whole tribe of
|
|---|
| 2091 | them theyd just all arrive and then the tangi would last about a week</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2092 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2093 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2094 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:2'>
|
|---|
| 2095 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2096 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>01:00:42</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2097 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2098 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2099 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Did your dad take part in those things?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2100 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2101 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2102 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:3'>
|
|---|
| 2103 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2104 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2105 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2106 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2107 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>um
|
|---|
| 2108 | No, mum, mum would go down and wed go down dad would kill his beast take his
|
|---|
| 2109 | beast down, pay his respects and then hed go home to work the farm, keep
|
|---|
| 2110 | milking the cows <span style='color:#FF9900'>?<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2111 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2112 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2113 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:4'>
|
|---|
| 2114 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2115 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>01:00:57</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2116 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2117 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2118 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Was there a marae there?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2119 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2120 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2121 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:5'>
|
|---|
| 2122 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2123 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2124 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2125 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2126 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Well
|
|---|
| 2127 | the, there was, the Ngapos had a big like a hall where people used to, used
|
|---|
| 2128 | to sleep and then it was fine itd be like they did here in Paeroa theyd
|
|---|
| 2129 | just lay their tablecloths down you know and then just all sit down on the
|
|---|
| 2130 | grass and eat</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2131 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2132 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2133 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:6'>
|
|---|
| 2134 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2135 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>01:01:23</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2136 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2137 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2138 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Did they put the deceased in their house
|
|---|
| 2139 | or in a lean to beside it or what?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2140 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2141 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2142 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:7'>
|
|---|
| 2143 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2144 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2145 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2146 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2147 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>No
|
|---|
| 2148 | they usually, sometimes theyd put up a tent, put up a tent or sometimes if
|
|---|
| 2149 | it was, if the person was very, theyd put them in the church, we had a
|
|---|
| 2150 | church</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2151 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2152 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2153 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:8'>
|
|---|
| 2154 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2155 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>01:01:46</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2156 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2157 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2158 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>And they stayed there for the eight days,
|
|---|
| 2159 | five or six days?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2160 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2161 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2162 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:9;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2163 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2164 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2165 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2166 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2167 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Oh there were two or three houses down at
|
|---|
| 2168 | the pa and all the Ngapos they had a big lounge room and they went their dead
|
|---|
| 2169 | always laid in the lounge our dad laid, our dad laid at home, we kept him at
|
|---|
| 2170 | home we had a big lounge and a front room and then a big bedroom he stayed in
|
|---|
| 2171 | the bedroom people came in and then everyone went out to the back to the
|
|---|
| 2172 | kitchen</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2173 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2174 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2175 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2176 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2177 |
|
|---|
| 2178 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2179 |
|
|---|
| 2180 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Ngati Porou I Harataunga</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 2181 |
|
|---|
| 2182 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2183 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2184 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2185 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2186 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2187 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>01:02:38</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2188 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2189 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2190 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>What is your understanding of the history
|
|---|
| 2191 | of Ngati Prou in, the settlement of Ngati Porou in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
|
|---|
| 2192 | w:st="on">Kennedy</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Bay</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2193 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2194 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2195 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1'>
|
|---|
| 2196 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2197 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>01:02:46</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2198 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2199 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2200 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Apparently, well apparently this is where
|
|---|
| 2201 | I wish Id listened to my Uncle Dick because he had the, he had it down to a
|
|---|
| 2202 | fine, he had it down pat and he used to come up to the historical society and
|
|---|
| 2203 | tell them about Kennedy Bay but apparently um Ngati Porou used to come up the
|
|---|
| 2204 | coast and Kennedy Bay was a stop over and they used to and they used to um
|
|---|
| 2205 | stop there and then go on up to Auckland to sell all their goods apparently
|
|---|
| 2206 | one time they stopped over and the um the northern people came down um Ngati?
|
|---|
| 2207 | the Ngapuhi came down and attacked the Kennedy Bay people and because the um
|
|---|
| 2208 | the Ngati Porou were strategists they told them how to fight and to dig in
|
|---|
| 2209 | and stop the people from coming and they stopped the Ngapuhi and apparently
|
|---|
| 2210 | um they were able to ward them off and kill them off so the people up, must have
|
|---|
| 2211 | been Tama-te-ra people so they said, seen they helped them save their people
|
|---|
| 2212 | that were living at Kennedy Bay and the surrounding districts, the
|
|---|
| 2213 | Coromandel, they gave them, they stood at the top of ah Tokatea and said as
|
|---|
| 2214 | far as the eye could see this way and that way they would grant them land and
|
|---|
| 2215 | thats really how I believe a lot of the people came to have the land at
|
|---|
| 2216 | Kennedy Bay</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2217 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2218 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2219 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:2'>
|
|---|
| 2220 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2221 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>01:04:50</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2222 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2223 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2224 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Did you hear those stories as a child?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2225 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2226 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2227 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:3;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2228 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2229 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2230 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2231 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2232 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>As a child yes because we, we asked dad
|
|---|
| 2233 | how did he happen to um how did we happen to have the land we were on, he
|
|---|
| 2234 | said well when he was in um, um Colville he ah, got a land grant and I think,
|
|---|
| 2235 | I think he because my father was married </span></p>
|
|---|
| 2236 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2237 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2238 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2239 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2240 |
|
|---|
| 2241 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2242 |
|
|---|
| 2243 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Nga Matua Hone Tuwaiti</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 2244 |
|
|---|
| 2245 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2246 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2247 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2248 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes;height:19.55pt'>
|
|---|
| 2249 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;
|
|---|
| 2250 | height:19.55pt'>
|
|---|
| 2251 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>T2:00:00:20</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2252 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2253 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;
|
|---|
| 2254 | height:19.55pt'>
|
|---|
| 2255 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Tell me about your dad, what was his name?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2256 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2257 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2258 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes;height:19.55pt'>
|
|---|
| 2259 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;
|
|---|
| 2260 | height:19.55pt'>
|
|---|
| 2261 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2262 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2263 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;
|
|---|
| 2264 | height:19.55pt'>
|
|---|
| 2265 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>My dads name was John Thwaites, or he was
|
|---|
| 2266 | known by, I have seen him, his name written in the Maori land courts as John
|
|---|
| 2267 | Tuwaiti, Hone Tuwaiti. My dad as far as I know had three wives, one was from
|
|---|
| 2268 | the East coast and I have a half sister from that union and then he come over
|
|---|
| 2269 | to Paeroa and I have two other half sisters and a half brother in Paeora and
|
|---|
| 2270 | then there was twelve of us. We always, my sister used to always to tease mum
|
|---|
| 2271 | and ask where she got married and she would never say, but when she died we
|
|---|
| 2272 | found there had been a wedding certificate, at home so that set my sisters
|
|---|
| 2273 | mind at rest I suppose you could say but no we where a happy family and we
|
|---|
| 2274 | knew we had half brothers and sisters he had always told us and I never once
|
|---|
| 2275 | when Rata<span style='color:#FF9900'> </span>our nephew came down and we
|
|---|
| 2276 | thought he was neat and then when he came back we heard he had married a
|
|---|
| 2277 | widow with a lot of children and we thought oh how gross but we came to meet
|
|---|
| 2278 | her later and hed married Irelene, Irelene Tuwaiti and got to know her sons
|
|---|
| 2279 | like Tai and the ones that are close to us, our blood relations are Mae, Mae
|
|---|
| 2280 | Mclean, Hati, yeah. Some of them didnt even know they were related, but we
|
|---|
| 2281 | knew because our father had told us. Dad used to play the accordion, he had a
|
|---|
| 2282 | lovely voice and quite often in the evening after hed finished work wed all
|
|---|
| 2283 | sit outside and hed sing, or wed sing our school songs to the accordion and
|
|---|
| 2284 | dad would sing to us, Ive lovely memories of my father, he was very, very he
|
|---|
| 2285 | was straight, I mean children you know, where seen and not heard at the
|
|---|
| 2286 | table, you didnt talk you didnt sing, you just, you were there to eat your
|
|---|
| 2287 | food and when you wanted to leave you had to ask to be excused from the
|
|---|
| 2288 | table, I mean, our father was very strict, like good manners, and good
|
|---|
| 2289 | behaviour and if we, like when we, I remember one night we were entertaining
|
|---|
| 2290 | a new school teacher because most times we had a school teacher lady she
|
|---|
| 2291 | always stayed at our place and we had a special room for her and they had
|
|---|
| 2292 | evenings, musical evenings at home with supper afterwards and I remember one
|
|---|
| 2293 | night Kyla and I had laughed because my cousins sang and they sang they were
|
|---|
| 2294 | flat and we were sent to bed, no supper which we didnt think was very good
|
|---|
| 2295 | but that was how we used to entertain people, get to know one another,
|
|---|
| 2296 | country people are very, are very good like that when anyone dies or whenever
|
|---|
| 2297 | anyone has any sadness or theres an accident its surprising the way country
|
|---|
| 2298 | people will bake a cake or scones and send it to the people thats in
|
|---|
| 2299 | trouble, um, you become very close in country places.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2300 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2301 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2302 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2303 |
|
|---|
| 2304 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2305 |
|
|---|
| 2306 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2307 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2308 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2309 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2310 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2311 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:04:35</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2312 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2313 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2314 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>And your mother</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2315 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2316 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2317 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2318 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2319 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2320 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2321 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2322 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Yes mum was very good, mum was a good
|
|---|
| 2323 | cook, my mother could make a meal out of nothing in a hurry, umm, as I said
|
|---|
| 2324 | she always had loads of preserved fruit, all sorts of things, pickled eggs and
|
|---|
| 2325 | things I mean you know we had these big stone, earthern jars and she used to
|
|---|
| 2326 | get this special stuff that you put in the jar if you got a lot of, had a lot
|
|---|
| 2327 | of eggs youd put them down and theyd stay fresh for, you sort of preserve
|
|---|
| 2328 | the eggs so that when you did, a month or so later youd open them up and
|
|---|
| 2329 | break them and youd go to bake with them and there was nothing wrong with
|
|---|
| 2330 | them you sort of dont do that now because youve got your fridge, fresh eggs
|
|---|
| 2331 | easily. But we, you preserved everything um made pickles jams things like
|
|---|
| 2332 | that. But the way they did them in the olden days they seemed to last for
|
|---|
| 2333 | ages, you know they didnt go bad or anything so wed have food that kept
|
|---|
| 2334 | well all the time. </span></p>
|
|---|
| 2335 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2336 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2337 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2338 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2339 |
|
|---|
| 2340 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2341 |
|
|---|
| 2342 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Kumara Pit</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 2343 |
|
|---|
| 2344 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2345 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2346 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2347 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes;
|
|---|
| 2348 | height:344.75pt'>
|
|---|
| 2349 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;
|
|---|
| 2350 | height:344.75pt'>
|
|---|
| 2351 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ>00:05:58</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2352 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2353 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;
|
|---|
| 2354 | height:344.75pt'>
|
|---|
| 2355 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>The greatest thing that<span
|
|---|
| 2356 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>always used to amuse me was we had, we
|
|---|
| 2357 | had big um gardens of kumaras, now my father outside the garden was sort of
|
|---|
| 2358 | the old lawn, he used to make like a kumara pit and it always amused me
|
|---|
| 2359 | because the kumaras kept beautifully hed um, hed dig the grass off the
|
|---|
| 2360 | earth, sort of around, around, circle like that, then hed put straw down and
|
|---|
| 2361 | then he would pack the kumaras in, sort of came up like a cone an around the
|
|---|
| 2362 | bottom of the kumaras hed cut off turfs of grass and make like an igloo and
|
|---|
| 2363 | hed pack all around the kumaras like that and up at the top hed dig a, hed
|
|---|
| 2364 | cover it with earth and in the top hed dig, you know how you have these
|
|---|
| 2365 | bulrushes? Hed dig a piece of the bulrush out like that and like the earth
|
|---|
| 2366 | part would be, would be all surrounded and then hed turn it over and hed
|
|---|
| 2367 | put it on top with the bulrushes coming round, over the side like a, like a
|
|---|
| 2368 | hut and cover the earth squares that he had around and when the rain, and
|
|---|
| 2369 | then hed dig, hed dig a, if it was on the slant, hed dig sort of a moat
|
|---|
| 2370 | around it, not a very deep one, around the kumara and then hed have run offs
|
|---|
| 2371 | so that the water would run away, so when it rained the water would come down
|
|---|
| 2372 | on the sort of on the earth at the top, run down the sides of the um of the
|
|---|
| 2373 | rushes and then just get into this little drain and sort of run away so then
|
|---|
| 2374 | what youd do is youd pull out one of the little squares and put your hand
|
|---|
| 2375 | in and get the kumaras out and that always amused me because theyd come out
|
|---|
| 2376 | beautiful and dry and none would, mind you hed sort of pick the kumaras over
|
|---|
| 2377 | so that none were cut or scratched so all the good kumaras went inside and
|
|---|
| 2378 | theyd last us all. The potatoes hed put in boxes with straw but thats how
|
|---|
| 2379 | he kept our kumaras and I always thought gosh what an ingenious idea and I
|
|---|
| 2380 | used to think that s clever because you know they were nothing but dry and
|
|---|
| 2381 | kept well, yeah.<b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
|
|---|
| 2382 | normal'><o:p></o:p></i></b></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2383 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2384 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2385 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2386 |
|
|---|
| 2387 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2388 |
|
|---|
| 2389 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>Pae-o-Hauraki Marae<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 2390 |
|
|---|
| 2391 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2392 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2393 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2394 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2395 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2396 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:09:04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2397 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2398 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2399 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>What is the story about the Marae?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2400 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2401 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2402 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2403 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2404 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2405 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2406 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2407 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Oh well, Pae o Hauraki<span
|
|---|
| 2408 | style='color:#FF9900'> </span>I have a photo of<span style='color:#FF9900'> </span>my
|
|---|
| 2409 | grandmother and great-grandmother and they were standing outside Pai 0
|
|---|
| 2410 | Hauraki, marae when it was down at Waiara its a ??? my mother and well all
|
|---|
| 2411 | the, lot of people from Paeroa used to be down there then, like the um Peeti
|
|---|
| 2412 | and all those people, they all lived down Colville there and then they all
|
|---|
| 2413 | sort of came up this way and because they moved back to Paeroa where there
|
|---|
| 2414 | was more, I think it was because of the work, worked in the gardens and
|
|---|
| 2415 | things, well the built the um the um marae back up here over the other side
|
|---|
| 2416 | of the river and then when they started to make them stop that they brought
|
|---|
| 2417 | it back over this side of the river I think its been moved about four times.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2418 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2419 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2420 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2421 |
|
|---|
| 2422 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2423 |
|
|---|
| 2424 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2425 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2426 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2427 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2428 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2429 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:10:17<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2430 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2431 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2432 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>How did they get it from <st1:place w:st="on">Colville</st1:place>
|
|---|
| 2433 | down here?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2434 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2435 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2436 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1'>
|
|---|
| 2437 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2438 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2439 | lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2440 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2441 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2442 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>They
|
|---|
| 2443 | brought it on a like on a barge and I remember my mother saying that when
|
|---|
| 2444 | she, when she was a little girl, must have been when they moved the, I think
|
|---|
| 2445 | when they moved marae, she was lucky, she um got in the um, she was given a
|
|---|
| 2446 | ride, because she was running along the beach, she was given a ride I think
|
|---|
| 2447 | in the, with King Koroki, he picked her up and took her in his canoe, and she
|
|---|
| 2448 | was, she was quite excited because she rode in a canoe, cos little girls
|
|---|
| 2449 | never rode in those canoes with men, but however because he picked her up and
|
|---|
| 2450 | put her in it she rode part of the way along. She always used to tell us
|
|---|
| 2451 | about that. And she was very proud to come on the way back this way but then
|
|---|
| 2452 | when once the marae moved then she married dad and she went to live in <st1:PlaceName
|
|---|
| 2453 | w:st="on">Kennedy</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Bay</st1:PlaceType>,
|
|---|
| 2454 | they bought a farm in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Kennedy</st1:PlaceName>
|
|---|
| 2455 | <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Bay</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2456 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2457 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2458 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:2'>
|
|---|
| 2459 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2460 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2461 | lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2462 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2463 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2464 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>So the house moved before your mother and
|
|---|
| 2465 | father married?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2466 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2467 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2468 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:3;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2469 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2470 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2471 | lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2472 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2473 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2474 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>aah, Yes, must of, yes when she was a
|
|---|
| 2475 | little girl she said.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2476 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2477 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2478 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2479 |
|
|---|
| 2480 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2481 |
|
|---|
| 2482 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ>Hauraki Ngati Porou?</span></h1>
|
|---|
| 2483 |
|
|---|
| 2484 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2485 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2486 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2487 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2488 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2489 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:11:34<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2490 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2491 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2492 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>And ah, some apparently some people have questioned
|
|---|
| 2493 | your Haurakitanga, saying that youre from Ngati Porou</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2494 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2495 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2496 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2497 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2498 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2499 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2500 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2501 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Oh well, all my, Ive got lots of step
|
|---|
| 2502 | brothers, because my dad was married three times I have a half sister Ngati Porou,
|
|---|
| 2503 | um I had two, oh I had a half sister, I had two half sisters here in Paeroa
|
|---|
| 2504 | and a half brother so we knew about, we used to knew about those, so I had a
|
|---|
| 2505 | lot of um people here, Ive got a, my whakapapa, its around somewhere, ah its
|
|---|
| 2506 | brought us back to um, back here to Tama-te-ra, um Ngati Hako, through the
|
|---|
| 2507 | different , ah different, different Chiefs.<span
|
|---|
| 2508 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2509 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2510 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2511 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2512 |
|
|---|
| 2513 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2514 |
|
|---|
| 2515 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2516 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2517 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2518 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2519 | <td style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2520 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:12:39<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2521 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2522 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2523 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>So youre part Hako, part Tama-te-ra, part
|
|---|
| 2524 | Ngati Porou,</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2525 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2526 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2527 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2528 | <td style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2529 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2530 | lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2531 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2532 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2533 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span
|
|---|
| 2534 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Part Ngati Porou, part Ngapuhi, from dads side
|
|---|
| 2535 | and ah the Apirnikau, actually um, Apirinikau he was um, he or his father was
|
|---|
| 2536 | the um navigator for the Tainui canoe, </span></p>
|
|---|
| 2537 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2538 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2539 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2540 |
|
|---|
| 2541 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2542 |
|
|---|
| 2543 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>Marae Continued<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 2544 |
|
|---|
| 2545 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2546 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2547 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2548 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2549 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2550 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:13:27<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2551 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2552 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2553 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>and how many times has the wharenui, it was
|
|---|
| 2554 | over the other side of the river eh? And then they moved it across from where
|
|---|
| 2555 | it currently sits</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2556 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2557 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2558 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2559 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2560 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2561 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2562 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2563 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2564 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Thats right, I, I think it was, I think
|
|---|
| 2565 | it was um it was in Waiara, but before then it was in another part of Colville,
|
|---|
| 2566 | which was called Cabbage Bay then and then they moved it to Waiara and then
|
|---|
| 2567 | from Waiara, I think they moved it up here to the other side and then this
|
|---|
| 2568 | side. I think It could be in, in Tai, in Tai Turoa book, I think hes got um
|
|---|
| 2569 | something about that. Um yeah.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2570 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2571 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2572 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2573 |
|
|---|
| 2574 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2575 |
|
|---|
| 2576 | <h1><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:
|
|---|
| 2577 | yes'>Auckland</span></st1:place></st1:City><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:
|
|---|
| 2578 | yes'>, Whanau & School<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 2579 |
|
|---|
| 2580 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2581 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2582 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2583 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2584 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2585 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:14:04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2586 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2587 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2588 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Now tell me about you, um, at the age of
|
|---|
| 2589 | twelve you went to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Auckland</st1:place></st1:City>?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2590 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2591 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2592 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2593 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2594 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2595 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:14:08<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2596 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2597 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2598 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Yes I went up to Auckland, my sister
|
|---|
| 2599 | lived in Otahu, so the closest, because there was no ah high school in Coromandel
|
|---|
| 2600 | then the school of mines did have um a school ah classes after the standard
|
|---|
| 2601 | six, after you got proficiency in standard six, my elder sisters went to the
|
|---|
| 2602 | school of mines in Coromandel, which is now a museum, ah but when my brother
|
|---|
| 2603 | George and then my sister Kyla and I and Gordon, um there was no high school
|
|---|
| 2604 | in Coromandel so we were allowed to, I think we got a boarding allowance to
|
|---|
| 2605 | go further a field, as long as we had um somewhere to stay so my sister was
|
|---|
| 2606 | in Otahu so we went to the Otahu, it was the Otahu technical high school
|
|---|
| 2607 | then, its now been changed to the Otahu college, and we went there for, went
|
|---|
| 2608 | there for um, went there for four or five years, we all went, um my brother
|
|---|
| 2609 | George went until he was in form six, then he went home to um, dad bought him
|
|---|
| 2610 | a truck and he had a cream run so he, that was his business then, he did the
|
|---|
| 2611 | cream run and all the groceries and the people went to Coromandel he took
|
|---|
| 2612 | them, ah my brother Dick who was between George and Kyla, he only wanted to
|
|---|
| 2613 | stay on the farm, he never wanted to leave home and because it was sort of
|
|---|
| 2614 | sad in a way because he never, when he did go he went overseas with the Maori
|
|---|
| 2615 | Battalion and he was killed in ? he died of wounds, he was waiting to come
|
|---|
| 2616 | home on the ship they were all on the, on the wharf and I think um, I think
|
|---|
| 2617 | the Germans came over and, and machine gunned them and then he was one of the
|
|---|
| 2618 | ones that was killed, while he was waiting to come home on the ship. Um yeah,
|
|---|
| 2619 | and, then I went to, I went to school and I took a commercial course and um
|
|---|
| 2620 | so then once I left school, mind you I didnt want to leave, I think the best
|
|---|
| 2621 | time of your life is at school, but because, because now you become a junior
|
|---|
| 2622 | secretary, intermediate and senior, so by the time I left school instead of
|
|---|
| 2623 | being a junior I was an intermediate and yet you should, I should have had
|
|---|
| 2624 | experience as a junior but I went straight, I worked for an Indent agent,
|
|---|
| 2625 | Lewis and Wills in, in um, Auckland, Southern Cross building in Auckland up
|
|---|
| 2626 | by the, up by the High Court and ah, I was there for, I think a year and, and
|
|---|
| 2627 | there was only I was in the office and Mr Ratley was my boss, and um, he was
|
|---|
| 2628 | indebt agent, which got goods from overseas and he sort of, we sold them,
|
|---|
| 2629 | yeah um, and ah, he had to, he was called up in the army so he, so he had to
|
|---|
| 2630 | close down so from there I went and I became um, a secretary at the Taupo
|
|---|
| 2631 | Totara Timber Company in Newmarket and I was there for seven years until I
|
|---|
| 2632 | got married and then I left.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2633 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2634 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2635 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2636 |
|
|---|
| 2637 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2638 |
|
|---|
| 2639 | <h1><span style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>Hoa Tane, Husband<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 2640 |
|
|---|
| 2641 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2642 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2643 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2644 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2645 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2646 | <p class=Timing><span style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>00:18:04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2647 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2648 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2649 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>And how did you meet your Tane?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2650 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2651 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2652 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2653 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2654 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2655 | <p class=Timing><span style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>00:18:08<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2656 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2657 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2658 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Oh well, he was in Ngapo, his family
|
|---|
| 2659 | lived in Coromandel, he was schooled in Coromandel but he used to come back
|
|---|
| 2660 | all the time when there were anything doing at the pa where the Ngapos lived
|
|---|
| 2661 | all the houses were there and the hall and the church were there, he used to
|
|---|
| 2662 | come down from time to time, well I knew him when he was a cheeky little rat,
|
|---|
| 2663 | and ah, yeah, it was quite funny we always used to argue and I used to, and I
|
|---|
| 2664 | used to tell him he was conceited and I used to say to him gosh I pity the
|
|---|
| 2665 | man, the girl that you marry and it was quite funny later years he said to me
|
|---|
| 2666 | whats that about you saying that you pity the girl that Id marry, but it
|
|---|
| 2667 | was years later.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2668 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2669 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2670 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2671 |
|
|---|
| 2672 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2673 |
|
|---|
| 2674 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2675 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2676 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2677 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2678 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2679 | <p class=Timing><span style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>00:19:01<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2680 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2681 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2682 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Can you remember ahh, um, when you decided
|
|---|
| 2683 | youd marry?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2684 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2685 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2686 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1'>
|
|---|
| 2687 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2688 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2689 | style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2690 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2691 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2692 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>ah Yes, he went over to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region
|
|---|
| 2693 | w:st="on">Japan</st1:country-region></st1:place> on the, in the forces that
|
|---|
| 2694 | were, that were um, what were they called? Um </span></p>
|
|---|
| 2695 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2696 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2697 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:2'>
|
|---|
| 2698 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2699 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2700 | style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2701 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2702 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2703 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>J force?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2704 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2705 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2706 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:3;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2707 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2708 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2709 | style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2710 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2711 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2712 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>J force, he was in the J force team and
|
|---|
| 2713 | he went to Japan and um we decided that we could marry when he come back, so
|
|---|
| 2714 | he was over there for about nearly two years so in the mean time I was still
|
|---|
| 2715 | working at the Taupo Totara Timber Company and then when he came back yes we
|
|---|
| 2716 | got married in Auckland. </span></p>
|
|---|
| 2717 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2718 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2719 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2720 |
|
|---|
| 2721 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2722 |
|
|---|
| 2723 | <h1><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:
|
|---|
| 2724 | yes'>Auckland</span></st1:City></st1:place><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:
|
|---|
| 2725 | yes'>, the Bay & Paeroa<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 2726 |
|
|---|
| 2727 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2728 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2729 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2730 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2731 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2732 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2733 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2734 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2735 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Why did you choose Auckland instead of the
|
|---|
| 2736 | Bay</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2737 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2738 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2739 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2740 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2741 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:19:46<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2742 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2743 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2744 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>umm, Well, it was funny you should say
|
|---|
| 2745 | that, I worked until I got married and then Norm and I were only, wed only
|
|---|
| 2746 | been married a week and my mother got sick, she was on the farm, she was
|
|---|
| 2747 | still, she was seventy odd, she was still milking cows, by then she had, they
|
|---|
| 2748 | had machines, didnt hand milk and um Norm and I got back to Coromandel and
|
|---|
| 2749 | we were just wondering what we were going to do, what he was going to do or
|
|---|
| 2750 | was I going back to work again or, and ah mum rang up and asked if we could
|
|---|
| 2751 | go back to the farm and help her on the farm so we talked it over and then
|
|---|
| 2752 | decided yes wed go back and help mum so we stayed there for about eighteen
|
|---|
| 2753 | months I think or maybe two years on the farm and then um we came up um, two
|
|---|
| 2754 | years, yeah, and then I was expecting my first daughter Andrea and I came up
|
|---|
| 2755 | to Paeroa because the, oh my sister said there was a wonderful nursing home
|
|---|
| 2756 | here in Paeroa so um and because it was such a long way to go to Coromandel I
|
|---|
| 2757 | decided Id have Andrea here and um so Norm and I came up and while he was
|
|---|
| 2758 | here, while we were on holiday the cows were out while he was on holiday um
|
|---|
| 2759 | he got a job at Harvey Evans so we decided to um, by then mum was better but
|
|---|
| 2760 | and my um, um, nephews were big enough then and they helped mum on the farm
|
|---|
| 2761 | because mum had two nephews with her, two grandchildren, her grandchildren,
|
|---|
| 2762 | two boys Ricky and Wayne so they milked the cows then and we came up to
|
|---|
| 2763 | Auckland, oh to Paeroa and as I said we came for a holiday and we havent,
|
|---|
| 2764 | were still here, mm.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2765 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2766 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2767 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2768 |
|
|---|
| 2769 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2770 |
|
|---|
| 2771 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2772 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2773 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2774 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2775 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2776 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:21:57<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2777 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2778 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2779 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>And after Andrea came..?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2780 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2781 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2782 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1'>
|
|---|
| 2783 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2784 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2785 | style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2786 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2787 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2788 | <p class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><span lang=EN-NZ>Norman</span></st1:City><span
|
|---|
| 2789 | lang=EN-NZ> and ah I had ten children who were all alive and um Ive go five
|
|---|
| 2790 | here in <st1:country-region w:st="on">New Zealand</st1:country-region> and
|
|---|
| 2791 | five in <st1:country-region w:st="on">Australia</st1:country-region> so I
|
|---|
| 2792 | spend my half my time in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Australia</st1:country-region></st1:place>
|
|---|
| 2793 | and half here, so mm</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2794 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2795 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2796 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:2'>
|
|---|
| 2797 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2798 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2799 | style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2800 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2801 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2802 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>: Sounds fantastic, </span></p>
|
|---|
| 2803 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2804 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2805 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:3'>
|
|---|
| 2806 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2807 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2808 | style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2809 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2810 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2811 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>When I, when, ah, when Robert hes the
|
|---|
| 2812 | baby when he was five years old it was nearly time for Andrea to turn twenty
|
|---|
| 2813 | one so Id said to um my sister Kyla, she was working at the accordion
|
|---|
| 2814 | factory and she said you want to earn some money she said I can get you a job
|
|---|
| 2815 | easy, George Dawes people are coming and going all the time they want you
|
|---|
| 2816 | know steady workers, so I went over and interviewed by George Doors and I got
|
|---|
| 2817 | a job there I think I was only there for four months, a couple of months I
|
|---|
| 2818 | really was enjoying it too and um I got a ring from Mr Malcolm at the Council
|
|---|
| 2819 | Office, he was the deputy ahh, accounts clerk and he asked me if Id like to
|
|---|
| 2820 | work at the Council so I, he made an appointment for ah interview, I went
|
|---|
| 2821 | down and yeah I was lucky I got the job so I started working here.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2822 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2823 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2824 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:4'>
|
|---|
| 2825 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2826 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:22:29<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2827 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2828 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2829 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>So how old were you when you came to
|
|---|
| 2830 | Paeroa?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2831 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2832 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2833 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:5'>
|
|---|
| 2834 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2835 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2836 | style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2837 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2838 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2839 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>I was only I was about twenty five,
|
|---|
| 2840 | twenty six when I came to Paeroa</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2841 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2842 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2843 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:6'>
|
|---|
| 2844 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2845 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2846 | style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2847 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2848 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2849 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>That would have been nineteen
|
|---|
| 2850 | ?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2851 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2852 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2853 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:7;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2854 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2855 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2856 | style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2857 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2858 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2859 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span
|
|---|
| 2860 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>About <st1:time Minute="49" Hour="19" w:st="on">nineteen
|
|---|
| 2861 | forty nine</st1:time>? no before then before then umm no Id be about, I was
|
|---|
| 2862 | twenty four, twenty five when I came to Paeroa</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2863 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2864 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2865 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2866 |
|
|---|
| 2867 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2868 |
|
|---|
| 2869 | <h1><span style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>Pae o Hauraki Marae
|
|---|
| 2870 | Continued<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 2871 |
|
|---|
| 2872 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2873 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2874 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2875 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2876 | <td style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2877 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 2878 | style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>00:24:31<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2879 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2880 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2881 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>So that would have been nineteen thirty
|
|---|
| 2882 | something?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2883 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2884 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2885 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2886 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2887 | <p class=Timing><span style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>00:24:33<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2888 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2889 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2890 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>No nineteen forty, about nineteen forty
|
|---|
| 2891 | about nineteen forty eight I think I came to Paeroa and it was quite funny I
|
|---|
| 2892 | went up, they were having a meeting at the Marae, so I said to Kyla Im Ill
|
|---|
| 2893 | go up and have a jack and see whats, how they work, how they do things here
|
|---|
| 2894 | cos Id never, all my like Id never, except for down home in Kennedy Bay Id
|
|---|
| 2895 | never had anything to do with, really with Maori people, you know, in
|
|---|
| 2896 | Auckland, all my friends were Europeans and so I went up the meeting house
|
|---|
| 2897 | and they made me secretary of the <span style='color:#FF9900'>??</span> I
|
|---|
| 2898 | didnt even know what I was supposed to be doing, couldnt understand a word
|
|---|
| 2899 | of Maori, still cant understand a word of Maori, and um, Ive been, Im the
|
|---|
| 2900 | executive, Ive got nothing, of the Marae Committee all the trustees, ever
|
|---|
| 2901 | since so Ive been all that time, thats when we had nothing up at the Marae,
|
|---|
| 2902 | there was hardly anything in there we used to have to, quite often I used to
|
|---|
| 2903 | put up my own money to hire dishes from either um a place in um, in Te Aroha
|
|---|
| 2904 | or Brokenshire ? in <st1:place w:st="on">Thames</st1:place>, Doreen, Royal
|
|---|
| 2905 | and I, every time someone, there was a tangi theyd ring us up and Id say to
|
|---|
| 2906 | Doreen is it your pay this week? Shed say why? Id say oh got to go get
|
|---|
| 2907 | some crockery shed say no, Id say oh well its mine so and thats how
|
|---|
| 2908 | we, thats why we were determined to make sure that we had good, it was
|
|---|
| 2909 | mainly for the old people cos they couldnt afford, couldnt afford to hire
|
|---|
| 2910 | crockery and that so, and thats why the Marae is in the condition it is
|
|---|
| 2911 | today and really people do not know or appreciate when they go into a marae
|
|---|
| 2912 | now and everything is there for them, you know, theres crockery there,
|
|---|
| 2913 | mattresses, comfortable mattresses, pillows, sheets, you know and theres
|
|---|
| 2914 | toilets, and nice showers and things like that people dont appreciate what
|
|---|
| 2915 | the old people had to put up with, and it was all the Marae Committee which
|
|---|
| 2916 | was Peter Williams, Ned Williams, myself and Doreen and Royal that really
|
|---|
| 2917 | brought that Marae to the standard.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2918 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2919 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2920 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2921 |
|
|---|
| 2922 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2923 |
|
|---|
| 2924 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2925 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2926 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2927 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2928 | <td width=113 rowspan=4 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2929 | <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2930 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2931 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2932 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>You mean Pito, Pito Williams</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2933 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2934 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2935 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1'>
|
|---|
| 2936 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2937 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Peter</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2938 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2939 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2940 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:2'>
|
|---|
| 2941 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2942 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Young Peter?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2943 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2944 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2945 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:3;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2946 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2947 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Oh
|
|---|
| 2948 | no, his father, his dad, young Peter is nothing like his father. Yeah, old
|
|---|
| 2949 | Peter, he was<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>..</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2950 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2951 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2952 | </table>
|
|---|
| 2953 |
|
|---|
| 2954 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2955 |
|
|---|
| 2956 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>Changes seen, Hauraki Incidents<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 2957 |
|
|---|
| 2958 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 2959 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 2960 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2961 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 2962 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2963 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:27:43<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2964 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2965 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2966 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>What of the changes, are there any
|
|---|
| 2967 | incidences that you can recall that happened on the marae that you might regard
|
|---|
| 2968 | as being interesting?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2969 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2970 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2971 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1'>
|
|---|
| 2972 | <td width=113 rowspan=9 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2973 | <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 2974 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2975 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2976 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>We
|
|---|
| 2977 | had, we had, actually since Ive been involved with Pai o Hauraki weve had
|
|---|
| 2978 | lots of interesting things, weve, had we had the re-enactment of the um, of
|
|---|
| 2979 | the um what was his name? Um </span></p>
|
|---|
| 2980 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2981 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2982 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:2'>
|
|---|
| 2983 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2984 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Williams?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2985 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2986 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2987 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:3'>
|
|---|
| 2988 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2989 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span
|
|---|
| 2990 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>um, ooh
|
|---|
| 2991 | </span></p>
|
|---|
| 2992 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2993 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2994 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:4'>
|
|---|
| 2995 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 2996 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Grey</span></p>
|
|---|
| 2997 | </td>
|
|---|
| 2998 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 2999 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:5'>
|
|---|
| 3000 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3001 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span
|
|---|
| 3002 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Grey and oh what was it, chap from
|
|---|
| 3003 | Mackaytown, that the um, that did a a lot of Maoris out of their land, </span></p>
|
|---|
| 3004 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3005 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3006 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:6'>
|
|---|
| 3007 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3008 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>: mm, Yeah, um</span></p>
|
|---|
| 3009 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3010 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3011 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:7'>
|
|---|
| 3012 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3013 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>We had a the re-enactment of um</span></p>
|
|---|
| 3014 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3015 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3016 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:8'>
|
|---|
| 3017 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3018 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>MacKay</span></p>
|
|---|
| 3019 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3020 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3021 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:9;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3022 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3023 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Yes, yes called after Mackay town, yeah we
|
|---|
| 3024 | had that and um, that was really great we had um we had some, we had some
|
|---|
| 3025 | really great things like we had um um Doug Paraku who was the, who did the
|
|---|
| 3026 | were, things like that, I mean theres a lot of great people in those days,
|
|---|
| 3027 | Uncle ??? um you know, there was so many people there, Johnny Clark, all
|
|---|
| 3028 | those really old ah, identities of Paeroa, really great, Barney Raukapa those
|
|---|
| 3029 | people, um Robert Williams, you know, Herbert, Herbert Williams, old Ngaro
|
|---|
| 3030 | Peeke, lot of old people, um Mandy Kuhana and Aunty Marqueenie and Fred and
|
|---|
| 3031 | Mary Mc Caskill, you know theres so many old people that done a lot for
|
|---|
| 3032 | Paeroa and theres sort of lots thats gone on thats, yeah, um and of course
|
|---|
| 3033 | quite funny, we I remember one time we had the marae and we um Uncle Matty
|
|---|
| 3034 | was there and we got ?? really ?? having the Maori bowls here and what
|
|---|
| 3035 | happened the day before they, they happened Uncle Matty passed away and we
|
|---|
| 3036 | had, we had to um get um Paeroa boys and transfer all our people and they
|
|---|
| 3037 | were all arriving at the marae and I had to transfer them over to sleeping in
|
|---|
| 3038 | ?? and the pa was very good, they, they cos we didnt have as good facilities
|
|---|
| 3039 | here as we did at the pa and we, we had cooking there, we had cooked our
|
|---|
| 3040 | puddings there and they had hangis up there and we were transferring food here
|
|---|
| 3041 | and there but no it worked out very well, I mean I was just ashamed that,
|
|---|
| 3042 | there was just, used to shame cos uncle Matty was an old bowler, loved his
|
|---|
| 3043 | bowles and it was a shame he wasnt there to greet all these bowling people,
|
|---|
| 3044 | you know just, bad luck that he passed away at that time.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 3045 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3046 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3047 | </table>
|
|---|
| 3048 |
|
|---|
| 3049 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3050 |
|
|---|
| 3051 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>Chamges<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 3052 |
|
|---|
| 3053 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 3054 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 3055 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3056 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3057 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3058 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:31:18<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3059 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3060 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3061 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Did you notice any changes
|
|---|
| 3062 | </span></p>
|
|---|
| 3063 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3064 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3065 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3066 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3067 | <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3068 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3069 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3070 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Well I noticed from the time I, I came
|
|---|
| 3071 | here the, the, I find now when I first came to Paeroa because I didnt have much
|
|---|
| 3072 | to do with Maoris then, um when I first came to Paeroa um I noticed they
|
|---|
| 3073 | stood on the, on the other side, on the opposite side, they also, their
|
|---|
| 3074 | callings were brief and concise you know just really, almost anybody could
|
|---|
| 3075 | learn how to call because the calls were simple to a point that now ah with
|
|---|
| 3076 | everyone learning um the reo I find that when they call now its really sort
|
|---|
| 3077 | of you know, its compli, well not exactly complicated but I suppose what
|
|---|
| 3078 | theyre trying to when they find out who is coming and then they sort of
|
|---|
| 3079 | welcome these people personally you know.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3080 | </span>And it sort of um, well suppose it makes it more complicated but it,
|
|---|
| 3081 | everything was simple in the olden days, um when we had um Europeans at the
|
|---|
| 3082 | Marae and you have to tell them what to do, I always tell them that
|
|---|
| 3083 | everything that Maoris do are logical, doesnt matter what they do its
|
|---|
| 3084 | logical, you think about it, they werent complicated people at all, they had
|
|---|
| 3085 | everything worked out in their own minds and its what you did, you know,
|
|---|
| 3086 | logical and I said so if you think that you shouldnt do this you shouldnt
|
|---|
| 3087 | do that if you know thats the logic of it you do it because that will be
|
|---|
| 3088 | right its not complicated at all you get to the a door of a house now, you
|
|---|
| 3089 | take off your shoes unless they say come in come in dont take of your
|
|---|
| 3090 | shoes and, and I said and I said you shake hands with everyone, greet
|
|---|
| 3091 | everyone like you do in a house, I said you when they ask you to sit down you
|
|---|
| 3092 | sit down I said you speak, you sort of, you dont, I said you speak when
|
|---|
| 3093 | they, when youre sort of spoken to and things like that, I said its just a
|
|---|
| 3094 | lot of it is just plain common sense, good manners and logical.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 3095 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3096 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3097 | </table>
|
|---|
| 3098 |
|
|---|
| 3099 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3100 |
|
|---|
| 3101 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>Concerns for the People<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 3102 |
|
|---|
| 3103 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 3104 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 3105 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3106 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3107 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3108 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3109 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3110 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3111 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Are there any, if you have a concern for Maori
|
|---|
| 3112 | people in the year 2001 what might your concern be?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 3113 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3114 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3115 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3116 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3117 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:34:31<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3118 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3119 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3120 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>I think, I think a lot of people, um
|
|---|
| 3121 | especially people who radical, radical ideas I think a lot of them sort of
|
|---|
| 3122 | get on the band wagon and they make more trouble, you know you hear a lot of
|
|---|
| 3123 | people say well, oh the Maoris, the Maoris do this or the Maoris dont want
|
|---|
| 3124 | you to do this, or dont want you to do that they dont really know, theyre
|
|---|
| 3125 | speaking, I feel theyre speaking on behalf of themselves, a lot of people, a
|
|---|
| 3126 | lot of Maori people cant be bothered with, with um, you know with, they
|
|---|
| 3127 | want, they want their life to flow um ok be proud and Maoris but you know um
|
|---|
| 3128 | I dont want someone to say that I would do this and I would do that, how do
|
|---|
| 3129 | they know what Im thinking? And I feel that a lot a lot of these now, of
|
|---|
| 3130 | these people who get up and speak about what Maoris want and what they dont
|
|---|
| 3131 | want really theyre speaking on behalf of themselves I mean if I ever say
|
|---|
| 3132 | anything, if I ever get up and say anything I say this is what I think and
|
|---|
| 3133 | thats what they should do, its what you think yourself, a lot of people
|
|---|
| 3134 | dont agree with what you say so I mean so why include everybody? I mean
|
|---|
| 3135 | there really are a lot of good Maoris and a lot of good people in New Zealand
|
|---|
| 3136 | and um, really the way I myself think that a lot of um, Maoris are making us
|
|---|
| 3137 | almost um racist because we are New Zealanders all of us at the end of the
|
|---|
| 3138 | day were New Zealanders, Maori and English, Maori and European, everyones a
|
|---|
| 3139 | New Zealander, thats the way you have to think, be proud youre a Maori, but
|
|---|
| 3140 | youre a New Zealander. </span></p>
|
|---|
| 3141 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3142 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3143 | </table>
|
|---|
| 3144 |
|
|---|
| 3145 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3146 |
|
|---|
| 3147 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>Strengths of Maori<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 3148 |
|
|---|
| 3149 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 3150 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 3151 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3152 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3153 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3154 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3155 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3156 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3157 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>What do you think um are some of the
|
|---|
| 3158 | strengths that Maori have that they can build on</span></p>
|
|---|
| 3159 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3160 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3161 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3162 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3163 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3164 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:36:32<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3165 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3166 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3167 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span
|
|---|
| 3168 | style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Most, if, if youve listened to your old people
|
|---|
| 3169 | and theyve instilled in you um right and wrong I think you cant go wrong
|
|---|
| 3170 | you know um I, I think you know in lots of ways I often think that my father
|
|---|
| 3171 | was quite strict with us, um, he was tolerant but he was quite strict, you
|
|---|
| 3172 | know you can never go wrong um mm</span></p>
|
|---|
| 3173 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3174 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3175 | </table>
|
|---|
| 3176 |
|
|---|
| 3177 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3178 |
|
|---|
| 3179 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>Maori District Council and Trust
|
|---|
| 3180 | Board<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 3181 |
|
|---|
| 3182 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 3183 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 3184 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3185 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3186 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3187 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:37:30<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3188 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3189 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3190 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Youve been ahh here for, in Paeroa for a
|
|---|
| 3191 | long time and youve seen lots of things happen umm and I want you to think back
|
|---|
| 3192 | to the Hauraki Maori district Council and the Hauraki Maori Trust Board um if
|
|---|
| 3193 | you take the Council first, do you think that it has played a role in the
|
|---|
| 3194 | development of our people</span></p>
|
|---|
| 3195 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3196 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3197 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3198 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3199 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3200 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:37:57<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3201 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3202 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3203 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Oh
|
|---|
| 3204 | yes, yeah I believe that, umm people I remember one time where I was
|
|---|
| 3205 | secretary for a while but you cant have a Maori secretary that can write can
|
|---|
| 3206 | understand English ok and can write it all down but you need the reo and um
|
|---|
| 3207 | its just a shame that I havent, my son speaks it, um Norman, Norman has
|
|---|
| 3208 | learnt how to speak the reo and I have grandchildren that are speaking it,
|
|---|
| 3209 | but um it is a shame I often think you know often think that I wish mum had
|
|---|
| 3210 | a, had a taught us, she said you know when, she was she died when she was
|
|---|
| 3211 | ninety three and then when just after she was ninety she came to live with me
|
|---|
| 3212 | she said it was a shame that she didnt teach us, but she said it was your
|
|---|
| 3213 | fathers wish, and I said that Id said mum Ive been to huis where,
|
|---|
| 3214 | especially people from the East Coast I said they speak beautiful reo, top
|
|---|
| 3215 | English, I said, and yet, yet they can speak, I said and I said they dont
|
|---|
| 3216 | look like Maoris I said and they can speak Maori you know fluently and she
|
|---|
| 3217 | said yes she said, she said um that when she was, because she could speak and
|
|---|
| 3218 | understand Maori she said that um it took her a long time, the kids used to
|
|---|
| 3219 | laugh at her when she first went to school and she said she never wanted
|
|---|
| 3220 | people to laugh at her children so she thought no Im not going to teach
|
|---|
| 3221 | Maori so she never, but she said she was sorry later on, you know, you know
|
|---|
| 3222 | when maori when the reo started coming into its own she said she was really
|
|---|
| 3223 | sorry she never taught us, but she said it was your fathers wish and that was
|
|---|
| 3224 | it, mind you in the olden days the women took notice of what their husband
|
|---|
| 3225 | said ?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3226 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3227 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3228 | </table>
|
|---|
| 3229 |
|
|---|
| 3230 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3231 |
|
|---|
| 3232 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 3233 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 3234 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3235 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3236 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3237 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:39:57<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3238 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3239 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3240 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>What do you think the contribution that
|
|---|
| 3241 | the District Council and Trust Board have done for Hauraki?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 3242 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3243 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3244 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3245 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3246 | <p class=MsoNormal align=left style='text-align:left;line-height:normal'><span
|
|---|
| 3247 | style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3248 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3249 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3250 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Well to begin with I always believed in the
|
|---|
| 3251 | Maori, um Maori Council because it was the one thing we had directly to the
|
|---|
| 3252 | government was our, it was our and, well so the Hauraki Maori Trust, Ive got
|
|---|
| 3253 | great, a lot of faith in the Hauraki Maori Trust Board I think its, I think
|
|---|
| 3254 | its a lot of people, a lot of people say its a waste of money a waste of
|
|---|
| 3255 | time but I dont think so I think it I think its brought people together
|
|---|
| 3256 | and weve got a lot of things for Maoridom out of, out of the um Maori
|
|---|
| 3257 | Council and the Trust Board, umm weve learnt a lot and um I think when young
|
|---|
| 3258 | Josie was head of the Trust Board, she did a lot of good with, you could ,
|
|---|
| 3259 | you know for a young girl she, she made a great impact in the fisheries I
|
|---|
| 3260 | mean she understands a lot of things and when she explains things its so
|
|---|
| 3261 | clear and even you yourself when youve explained things about the um the um
|
|---|
| 3262 | Maori Council you always made yourself clear and um I think I think you have
|
|---|
| 3263 | all have contributed a lot to the um, to the organisations, <span
|
|---|
| 3264 | style='color:#FF9900'>John Mac? </span>Eddie, you all have in your own way
|
|---|
| 3265 | and um and really the Maori people in this area should be quite proud of what
|
|---|
| 3266 | has been achieved through the council and the Trust board but thats the
|
|---|
| 3267 | trouble with us, some of us are inclined to um bring in personalities and its
|
|---|
| 3268 | the personalities that spoil it umm, you should, make sure everyone should
|
|---|
| 3269 | look at everything clinically and if whether you like a person or not if
|
|---|
| 3270 | theyre doing good let them because I think its silly to, to say oh I dont
|
|---|
| 3271 | like that person hes not doing any good I mean thats, to me thats, thats
|
|---|
| 3272 | sad because um people that are, any person thats involved in public work and
|
|---|
| 3273 | are doing things for other people they do the best they can and people have
|
|---|
| 3274 | to appreciate that and understand that um its you cant its like the um the
|
|---|
| 3275 | great um writer said you can please people some of the time but you cant
|
|---|
| 3276 | please all of the people all of the time, and thats true its just um nature
|
|---|
| 3277 | its just what people are made of and some people dont like people just for
|
|---|
| 3278 | the stupidest things you know but they dont realise that theres good in
|
|---|
| 3279 | everybody you know if youre trying to do something for someone else, I think
|
|---|
| 3280 | more power to you. </span></p>
|
|---|
| 3281 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3282 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3283 | </table>
|
|---|
| 3284 |
|
|---|
| 3285 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3286 |
|
|---|
| 3287 | <h1><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>Future Vision for Hauraki<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
|
|---|
| 3288 |
|
|---|
| 3289 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 3290 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 3291 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3292 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3293 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3294 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3295 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3296 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3297 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>What do you think might be the direction for
|
|---|
| 3298 | Hauraki? Oh yeah lets start at a more local level, what do you think might be
|
|---|
| 3299 | the direction of the Marae at Tama-te-ra?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 3300 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3301 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3302 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3303 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3304 | <td width=113 valign=top style='width:85.05pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3305 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:43:53<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3306 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3307 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3308 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Well, should the, should the fisheries
|
|---|
| 3309 | ever come to light with money and things theres so much good they can do for
|
|---|
| 3310 | people here umm, theyre making a start now with all our um you know with all
|
|---|
| 3311 | our um, with the children the tamariki, and um were getting a better health
|
|---|
| 3312 | service um you see not long ago we had dentist, dentistry but its got to be,
|
|---|
| 3313 | its got to be put out wider you know, so everybody, I know its hard to let
|
|---|
| 3314 | everybody know um but um but when anything is, anything thats worthwhile
|
|---|
| 3315 | should be um people should be made aware of it but no I think I think theyre
|
|---|
| 3316 | doing a very good job umm mm.</span></p>
|
|---|
| 3317 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3318 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3319 | </table>
|
|---|
| 3320 |
|
|---|
| 3321 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3322 |
|
|---|
| 3323 | <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=672
|
|---|
| 3324 | style='width:7.0in;margin-left:31.1pt;border-collapse:collapse;mso-padding-alt:
|
|---|
| 3325 | 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3326 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3327 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3328 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:45:05<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3329 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3330 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3331 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>What would be your wish for Hauraki?</span></p>
|
|---|
| 3332 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3333 | </tr>
|
|---|
| 3334 | <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
|
|---|
| 3335 | <td valign=top style='padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3336 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:45:12<o:p></o:p></span></p>
|
|---|
| 3337 | </td>
|
|---|
| 3338 | <td width=559 valign=top style='width:418.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>
|
|---|
| 3339 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Well itd be, itd be nice if everyone
|
|---|
| 3340 | could unite and stop arguing and picking on things I mean a lot of a lot of
|
|---|
| 3341 | people need to see sort of a wider picture they dont they sort of nitpick and
|
|---|
| 3342 | theyre worried about little things, whereas really in a way if you sort of
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| 3343 | look at the whole scene or the wider picture its a different its a
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| 3344 | different sort of ball game altogether um you need to pull together you know
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| 3345 | and another thing too is you shouldnt, people shouldnt try and see what
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| 3346 | they can get out of things you know now in well if, you know Im afraid
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| 3347 | sometimes theyre losing Maori at the Maori aroha I know you cant live,
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| 3348 | everyone says you cant live without money um but theres money and money you
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| 3349 | know some people will try and do good for everybody but others ah they wont
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| 3350 | do anything unless theyre paid for it and thats the sad part because as I
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| 3351 | said theyre losing that Maori aroha</span></p>
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| 3368 | <p class=Question><span lang=EN-NZ>Is there anything else youd like to say?
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| 3369 | About anything?</span></p>
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| 3375 | <p class=Timing><span lang=EN-NZ style='mso-no-proof:yes'>00:47:13<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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| 3378 | <p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>um, Theres a wealth of knowledge out
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| 3379 | there you know I often think now um theres a lot of things because people in
|
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| 3380 | the olden days didnt, didnt speak out you see my father never spoke about
|
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| 3381 | like his mother or his father or you know and a lot of people when they have
|
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| 3382 | something like information a lot of people will not give it out and I think,
|
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| 3383 | um you need to even if you just tell your family about different things
|
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| 3384 | because I think it should you know a lot of, there is a lot of information as
|
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| 3385 | you say that should be retained and the only way that you can retain it is to
|
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| 3386 | pass it on and um yeah record it for prosperity I suppose mm</span></p>
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